PDA

View Full Version : What REALLY bugs me about the latest James Bond-


Spartacus
April 28th, 2008, 21:34
In Casino Royal, he calls his watch an Omeega!! Drove me nuts! Why would he say it like that "Omeega"!!! Arrgghhh... Someone needs to straighten him out for this next movie!!

Spart

Nick1016
April 28th, 2008, 21:50
I think this topic has come up before. No doubt if the powers that be at Omega had any objection, the scene would have been reshot. Lord knows the Swatch Group paid for enough product placement in Casino Royale!

Fergie
April 28th, 2008, 22:19
In Casino Royal, he calls his watch an Omeega!! Drove me nuts! Why would he say it like that "Omeega"!!! Arrgghhh... Someone needs to straighten him out for this next movie!!

Spart

Has it ever occurred that different people in different parts of the world pronounce words differently? Have you never heard of regional dialect? The way he pronounced it in the film didn't seem odd to me as that's how I pronounce it.

Someone needs to straighten him out for this next movie!!



Daniel Craig is a British actor portraying a British Secret Service agent. So having him pronounce it a British way seems right. Unlike Sean Connery who has played an Irish Man (The Untouchables), a Russian (The Hunt For Red October) and a Persian ([I]Highlander) and all with his Scottish twang. That is wrong!

Whilst we are on the subject, I don't like the way Americans pronounce aluminium, oregano, vitamin and jaguar. To me they sound very odd. But I would never loose sleep over it and would never walk out of a film because someone said it slightly different to me and I would never have a rant about it on a forum. Oops, I guess I just did!!

seamasterDJT
April 28th, 2008, 22:30
that's how you are meant to say it!b-)

Spartacus
April 29th, 2008, 00:05
Has it ever occurred that different people in different parts of the world pronounce words differently? Have you never heard of regional dialect? The way he pronounced it in the film didn't seem odd to me as that's how I pronounce it.



Daniel Craig is a British actor portraying a British Secret Service agent. So having him pronounce it a British way seems right. Unlike Sean Connery who has played an Irish Man (The Untouchables), a Russian (The Hunt For Red October) and a Persian ([I]Highlander) and all with his Scottish twang. That is wrong!

Whilst we are on the subject, I don't like the way Americans pronounce aluminium, oregano, vitamin and jaguar. To me they sound very odd. But I would never loose sleep over it and would never walk out of a film because someone said it slightly different to me and I would never have a rant about it on a forum. Oops, I guess I just did!!

Well its a shame you couldn't seem to notice that my post was meant to be humorous, but I will take you on.. (lets not think the Brits have no sense of humor?)

Brits do not say "Alpha and Omeega"! Sorry, I have two good British friends and they say Omega. Omeega is simply not a word! So it was simply a flub (either intended or not intended) on the part of Daniel Craig and it was humorous.
You are the only person on BOTH continents that I have ever heard refer to Omega as "Omeega"!

Cheers
Spart

Nick1016
April 29th, 2008, 00:44
Well its a shame you couldn't seem to notice that my post was meant to be humorous, but I will take you on.. (lets not think the Brits have no sense of humor?)

Brits do not say "Alpha and Omeega"! Sorry, I have two good British friends and they say Omega. Omeega is simply not a word! So it was simply a flub (either intended or not intended) on the part of Daniel Craig and it was humorous.
You are the only person on BOTH continents that I have ever heard refer to Omega as "Omeega"!

Cheers
Spart

Gotta side with the Brits on this one. Even our own very American Meriam-Webster Dictionary lists "Omeega" as a proper pronunciation: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/omega

whifferdill
April 29th, 2008, 00:49
That's how it's pronounced in these ere parts sonny-jim. None of that daft Oh - mega stuff over ere'

jaytaylor
April 29th, 2008, 01:30
While we are on the subject the American pronunciation of Herb and Premiere tend to grate me, watching Top Chef recently the word "erb" did get a little irritating.

Please speak English properly you Omeega mispronouncing emericans!

Spartacus
April 29th, 2008, 02:02
Sorry you bloaks.. Just checked the Websters American and the first pronunciation listed is "o-m"a"ga, followed by 2nd pronunciation-
"o-m"e"ga with the long "a" and "e" for both..
It says that if there are two pronunciations, that the first is not necessarily the more correct, but that it would be generally considered to be the most USED. I rest my case barristers..

Now no more Briticisms and tomfoolery you bloaks! b-) I will simply speak to James Bond, garner his compliance to using Omega rather than Omeega and get on with it..

Later,
Spart

Fergie
April 29th, 2008, 07:22
Well its a shame you couldn't seem to notice that my post was meant to be humorous,


Aha!!! The humour lost in the post syndrome strikes again!!o| Have you noticed those little yellow faces on the right when you are typing a post? :think: If you use them then we can tell its a humorous post. It very easy to get the wrong end of the stick when reading posts on forums. The smileys do help a lot. :-!

As I said in my post, regional dialect also affects how people pronounce things. Here in the UK you only need travel 10 miles from one place to another to hear different pronunciations. I come from Yorkshire (which has a very broad accent) and was born into an Irish family. So I pick up both Yorkshire and Irish pronunciations. Drives my wife mad with the way I pronounce things sometimes.
Oh and by the way, our American friends, that big city in Scotland is pronounced Glaz-go, sometimes even Glaz-ge (but only if you are from there with a strong Glaswegian accent!) not Glass-gow ;-) Even Grounds Keeper Willy pronounces it wrong, and he's from there :-d

Now I must go get ready for work :-!

AAP
April 29th, 2008, 07:26
Unlike Sean Connery who has played an Irish Man (The Untouchables), a Russian (The Hunt For Red October) and a Persian [if memory serves me right, could have been an Egyptian] (Highlander) and all with his Scottish twang.

Connery's character in Highlander is a Spaniard. Funny to see him playing a Spaniard and Christopher Lambert playing a Scot. Neither one tried particularly hard on that one.

AlThreesons
April 29th, 2008, 07:44
I say poTAYtoe; you say poTAHTOE, and Dan Quayle spells potatoe ;-)

Jon Kenney
April 29th, 2008, 12:53
Aha!!! The humour lost in the post syndrome strikes again!!o| Have you noticed those little yellow faces on the right when you are typing a post? :think: If you use them then we can tell its a humorous post. It very easy to get the wrong end of the stick when reading posts on forums. The smileys do help a lot. :-!

As I said in my post, regional dialect also affects how people pronounce things. Here in the UK you only need travel 10 miles from one place to another to hear different pronunciations. I come from Yorkshire (which has a very broad accent) and was born into an Irish family. So I pick up both Yorkshire and Irish pronunciations. Drives my wife mad with the way I pronounce things sometimes.
Oh and by the way, our American friends, that big city in Scotland is pronounced Glaz-go, sometimes even Glaz-ge (but only if you are from there with a strong Glaswegian accent!) not Glass-gow ;-) Even Grounds Keeper Willy pronounces it wrong, and he's from there :-d

Now I must go get ready for work :-!

I love these threads:-!

For all you guys 'state side', I'm from Leicester (UK).... That's pronounced Lesta and not lie-ses-turb-)

It makes me laugh (and I'm guilty of it too) that wherever we are from we think we speak normal and without accent.

Leeds is about 120 miles from Leicester and we have trouble understanding each other:-d

NMGE17
April 29th, 2008, 13:31
The use of language, and the differences between our use of it, is part of what makes the world such an interesting place - lets not fall out over it. The scene in Casino Royale is cringe making not so much to me for the pronunciation (pronounciation?), but that it is there at all. To me it was a step too far in the product placement stakes even if my first response was to smile at the slight anti-Rolex sentiment.

Nigel

PS: Fergie - we soft southerners say Glarzgo in the same way we say barth for Bath.

Francois Boucher
April 29th, 2008, 13:36
In Casino Royal, he calls his watch an Omeega!! Drove me nuts! Why would he say it like that "Omeega"!!! Arrgghhh... Someone needs to straighten him out for this next movie!!

SpartJust watch it in French! In it, he clearly says "omÉga"...

Francois Boucher
April 29th, 2008, 13:57
How to pronounce those fancy watch words (http://www.chronometrie.com/watchsounds/watchsoundspage.htm).

Sadly, it does not have the name "Omega"...

I remember an official Swiss watch brands site that had an extensive pronunciation guide, but I can't fond it anymore...

Neil(UK)
April 29th, 2008, 15:13
Got to side with the other Brits here.

I have WIS friends, go to watch fairs etc etc and have never heard the word pronounced any differently from Om-ee-gah.

If you used any other pronunciation people around here would think you were a bit an iron hoof. ;-)

JB is supposed to be a British secret agent so we don't want him speaking in Americanese. ;-)

amc22
April 29th, 2008, 16:27
Perhaps we should find a greek person and ask:think:
...it is their letter afterall.:-d


Andrew

(see...Im using smileys...thats a really good idea fergie!)

AAP
April 29th, 2008, 17:03
Perhaps we should find a greek person and ask:think:
...it is their letter afterall.:-d

Only if we're going to start calling their country "Hellas"

Nick1016
April 29th, 2008, 17:22
Connery's character in Highlander is a Spaniard. Funny to see him playing a Spaniard and Christopher Lambert playing a Scot. Neither one tried particularly hard on that one.

Actually, Connery's character in Highlander is Egyptian. The character does have a Spanish name, but that is just the alias he is using at that particular time. Remember, this is a Scottish actor playing an immortal Egyptian with a Spanish name carrying a Japanese sword...suspension of disbelief is key!

And yes, I've watched Highlander more times than I care to admit.

AAP
April 29th, 2008, 18:09
Actually, Connery's character in Highlander is Egyptian. The character does have a Spanish name, but that is just the alias he is using at that particular time. Remember, this is a Scottish actor playing an immortal Egyptian with a Spanish name carrying a Japanese sword...suspension of disbelief is key!

And yes, I've watched Highlander more times than I care to admit.

I stand corrected. Thanks for geeking-out with me.

Brimstone
April 29th, 2008, 18:24
I believe that the use of the Omeeega pronunciation was done from a tactical standpoint by Omega. This was an obvious product placement to show specifically that Bond chooses Omega over Rolex and the use of the Omeeega pronunciation made it stand out more in the movie and has led to endless discussions.

Fergie
April 29th, 2008, 18:25
Only if we're going to start calling their country "Hellas"

And using a capital G instead of a lower case g :-!

number6
April 29th, 2008, 20:47
Fergie, we Americans don't mispronounce alumin(i)um we misspell it (aluminum). As for oregano, vitamin and jaguar I have no defense.;-)

beamon
April 29th, 2008, 21:44
I love regional pronunciations. The world would be poorer w/o them.

I usually see the logic in all pronunciations, but one that I think the Brits have difficulty in justifying is their pronounciation of the word "medicine".

Enough for me. I must go take my 'medcin' now. ;-)

Fergie
April 29th, 2008, 22:21
Leeds is about 120 miles from Leicester and we have trouble understanding each other:-d

Leicester!? Never mind Leicester. Castleford is 10 miles from Leeds and they have their own dialect altogether. They drink wattter and use a fork and neef to eat with o| And if you come from Hull (60 miles from Leeds)and wish to order a white wine and someone asked you the time at five past nine, you would sound like this:

"Can I have a whart warn please. You want to know the tarm?, its farv past narn!"