Is it brietling?

[paijo]

Just bought this watch quite cheap in a flea market.
Need your help to identify which model it is and circa what year.
Try to google, cant find the close one. Hopefully not a fake one.
Thanks a lot.

[SadikP]

Don't know much about older B watches, but that crown is definitely not Breitling.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong

[no_self_control]

Don't know much about older B watches, but that crown is definitely not Breitling.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong

not all breitlings have a 'B' on the crown.

i could be wrong but my guess is this isn't genuine. the screw heads look oversized for the bezel and the 12 doesn't match the style of the other hour markings.

[EJC]

Just bought this watch quite cheap in a flea market.
Need your help to identify which model it is and circa what year.
Try to google, cant find the close one. Hopefully not a fake one.
Thanks a lot.

Is there a model # on the back?
How about a serial number?

[SnapIT]

A few things point to a genuine an early release model say '84-85 or a year or two later.
Dial crispness and fonts used.
Second hand, correct for "later" authorised service replacement parts.
Crispness of the laser cut chapter on the rotating bezel and lens surround.
Crispness and undamaged solid gold rider tabs.
Aging of the lumi (tritium) of the hands and dial hour markers
Given its obvious age the replacement crown is not unexpected. Its less desirable but can be brought back to original condition without much effort. If one has the feeling that this watch is a bit of a bitser (composed of several watches) I would think this is not the case but evidence of several services over its lifetime outside the factory authorised service centres. A nice piece if not too expensive when acquired. I too would like to know what the model and serial numbers were. A shot of the back would help.

[EJC]

A few things point to a genuine an early release model say '84-85 or a year or two later.
Dial crispness and fonts used.
Second hand, correct for "later" authorised service replacement parts.
Crispness of the laser cut chapter on the rotating bezel and lens surround.
Crispness and undamaged solid gold rider tabs.
Aging of the lumi (tritium) of the hands and dial hour markers
Given its obvious age the replacement crown is not unexpected. Its less desirable but can be brought back to original condition without much effort. If one has the feeling that this watch is a bit of a bitser (composed of several watches) I would think this is not the case but evidence of several services over its lifetime outside the factory authorised service centres. A nice piece if not too expensive when acquired. I too would like to know what the model and serial numbers were. A shot of the back would help.

I agree with SnapIt.
I could not find anything resembling it in Richter.

[paijo]

I am not sure which number on the back as the model. I attached back picture. I got it without strap. Just put cheap imitation leather strap temporary. What will be the bracelet for this type?

[Dracha]

I cant read the numbers on the back but i believe this is a genuine breitling watch with a non original crown

-Rene

[Broker]

I cant read the numbers on the back but i believe this is a genuine breitling watch with a non original crown

-Rene

I don't believe that crown is original but it is an authentic Emergency crown. It's EXACTLY like the one on my E.

Todd

[O2AFAC67]

Just bought this watch quite cheap in a flea market.
Need your help to identify which model it is and circa what year.
Try to google, cant find the close one. Hopefully not a fake one.
Thanks a lot.Probably an early model "Antares" based on the 0-100 outer dial shelf. Definitely a caliber B10 as used in the Antares, Gent's J-class, Wings Automatic and current Cockpit. If an Antares, the model numer would be on the piece would be B10047 and in the early 90's the list price on strap was $1500 USD (1991). I'm in agreement with SnapIt and our other members regarding authenticity and incorrect crown. I also suspect a mid to late 80's time frame for the piece pictured. BUSA may or may not have a replacement dial for the watch but a full service will still be well over $300 for the piece, possibly as much as 5 to 6 hundred dollars. If you can verify model number, Mark and Teresa Heist may be able to restore the piece for you also but the cost is still well into the hundreds of dollars. If the watch is working right now and reasonably accurate (losing or gaining perhaps no more than 10-20 seconds/day), holds a complete winding (30-40 turns keeps it running for approx 40 hours) as well as keeps running while wearing 8 hours a day, the fair resale value is probably a couple of hundred dollars at least. This of course based on the presumption there is no provenance (history, papers) available. Intrinsic value is of course subjective as some owners regard the "vintage" aspect of such a piece as being more valuable. If the watch is not working properly and you are not concerned with intrinsic or resale value, I would suggest having a qualified watchmaker (not necessarily a Breitling authorized service center) provide a repair estimate for you. The watch may still end up being a "bitser" but what are you wanting to do with the piece? Your acquisitioin, your choices. Hope this helps...
Cheers,
Ron

[paijo]

2 number on the backcase: 81970 and 5336.

[no_self_control]

2 number on the backcase: 81970 and 5336.

the first is the type. the second is the serial.

[SnapIT]

Hi,
The model number is 81970 which makes this an early release as stated before. Google turns up one or two on sale just now. As its not a chronograph then one might guess that this is a "cockpit" or similar model. I don't have access to catalogues that go back as far as 1985-6 which just about dates this watch.

[no_self_control]

2 number on the backcase: 81970 and 5336.

here's an 81970 ...

http://www.clubbreitlingisrael.co.il/site/detail/departAlbum/albumPic.asp?depart_id=24739&seaWord=%D7%93%D7%92%D7%9D+81970

[paijo]

thanks for the link. it is a pity i cant understand any israel word.
but comparing to the picture, then the crown is for sure not original.
not sure what else is not original.
no plan to sell it, but really want to make it as my first breitling.
any idea how much is original leather strap fr breitling? and the crown?

[no_self_control]

thanks for the link. it is a pity i cant understand any israel word.

go through google and use the translation feature.

but comparing to the picture, then the crown is for sure not original.
not sure what else is not original.

the second hand is not original either.

no plan to sell it, but really want to make it as my first breitling.
any idea how much is original leather strap fr breitling?

my advice on the strap is buy a buckle on eBay and get an aftermarket strap. i'll guess the lugs are 20mm so the buckle will be 18mm to fit an 20/18 strap.

and the crown?

the crown won't cost a fortune if you can get it fitted without incurring a service charge. some ADs will do this sort of work or at least source the part. you may need a new stem too, depending on if the new crown fits the old stem in terms of length or not.