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HelloNasty1
August 28th, 2008, 02:53
If you were in the market would you cough up the the extra change for the newer version of the Superocean Aeromarine at $2,850 msrp or older $2,500 msrp. I know there is discounting, just for easy numbers in this example. Do you prefer the what is about to be the classic Superocean Aeromarine or the newer cleaned up dial? Thanks!

gooter
August 28th, 2008, 04:16
I much prefer the new dial after seeing it in person. No question I would pony up a few extra bucks for it.

316L
August 28th, 2008, 10:38
I actually like the filled in numbers of the older model and the hands. I don't like the change of the new hands. BUT the overall cleaner look is a plus and the fact that the price is not much much more, I would buy the newer model. Now, if I could get a very good price on the older model then I would get the older model.

RJRJRJ
August 29th, 2008, 06:15
The new one. No question about it.

AAH
August 29th, 2008, 15:47
I would go for the new one... I tried on the yellow face the other day and it is awesome!!!!!!

Don Indiano
August 29th, 2008, 17:16
Price considerations aside, I prefer the old style SuperOcean with its cleaner hands and filled arabics, though the bigger logo looks great on the new model.

kiterpete
August 29th, 2008, 17:28
Here's mine on the new Breitling Rubber and SS. Purchased the package in St Marteen on vacation for $1,800 US (plus 2 hours of negotiating) from the AD on the island.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm26/kiterpete101/breit.jpg


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm26/kiterpete101/breitstrap2.jpg

HelloNasty1
August 30th, 2008, 01:58
Went and checked them out in person and I am thinking I am loving new version with the less cluttered dial and the new hands. They both look great, but I am now 90% sure coughing up the extra $$$ on the new version is the answer for me.

vtsnowplow
August 30th, 2008, 14:24
i like the brushed Satin look of the superocean professional much better.

RJRJRJ
August 31st, 2008, 11:42
i like the polished look of the superocean professional.

You mean brushed?

HelloNasty1
September 7th, 2008, 01:09
Decided to cough up the change, the new dial is for me. Thanks for everyone's input!

dkang
September 14th, 2008, 21:13
I like the new dial too...Saw one on rubber recently, thought it was a great looking combo.

SuperOcean
September 15th, 2008, 23:46
I have a new superocean steelfish and I absolutely love the watch. It also keeps extremely accurate time (+- 4 seconds a day)

HelloNasty1
September 30th, 2008, 02:26
Thank you to all, I spent the cash. Glad I did, looks fantastic!

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii65/Watchbucket/Breit1.jpg

KevRC4130
September 30th, 2008, 04:35
Can someone please post a picture of each for reference?

Thanks!

HelloNasty1
September 30th, 2008, 20:23
Can someone please post a picture of each for reference?

Thanks!

refer to post #7 older version. I do want to mention I very much like that version as well, but decided on newer version for me.

KevRC4130
October 1st, 2008, 18:14
refer to post #7 older version. I do want to mention I very much like that version as well, but decided on newer version for me.

Wow, I thought that was the new one.

I'm glad I stumbled upon this thread, as I am planning to get a Superocean very soon.

Can you link me to a source that explains the new vs. old?

Also is it expected that the old ones should be discounted now?

Thanks

shinostarr
October 2nd, 2008, 04:40
Thank you to all, I spent the cash. Glad I did, looks fantastic!

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii65/Watchbucket/Breit1.jpg

hey, i wonder how's the lume on the new superocean can you please post pics. thanks in advance!

HelloNasty1
October 2nd, 2008, 04:54
the difference is the hands, reconfigured face (markings/numbers), larger Breitling logo, superocean in red font, bezel does not have black on numbers/markers. Hope that helps you, good luck. Ohhhhhh and it cost about $350 more.

KevRC4130
October 3rd, 2008, 05:19
the difference is the hands, reconfigured face (markings/numbers), larger Breitling logo, superocean in red font, bezel does not have black on numbers/markers. Hope that helps you, good luck. Ohhhhhh and it cost about $350 more.

So in terms of the shape/fit, it's identical?

RJRJRJ
October 3rd, 2008, 11:00
So in terms of the shape/fit, it's identical?

Yessir.

alpine0000
November 18th, 2008, 07:32
would you cough up the the extra change for the newer version of the Superocean Aeromarine at $2,850 msrp or older $2,500 msrp.

they are the same watch with a different dial. i would buy whichever one has the dial that you prefer. :-!

me personally, id get the newer one, only because i want yellow :roll:, and they dont make yellow in the older style (unless i get the pro version from a few years back).

other than that, its no difference. which dial do you like better?

rydude07
November 18th, 2008, 11:08
For me, I think i like the older one better :) but of course that is just my opinion

BreaknecK
December 2nd, 2008, 23:17
That new model is clean as a whistle! Now, the only question is, what dial to get? Yellow, Black (does this kind of reflect blueish?), or blue? I don't believe they make a silver dial in this version. But if any one can confirm, that'd be cool. I can't get any info off of Breitling's website...it pretty much sucks or is hard to figure out/navigate.

RJRJRJ
December 3rd, 2008, 00:35
That new model is clean as a whistle! Now, the only question is, what dial to get? Yellow, Black (does this kind of reflect blueish?), or blue? I don't believe they make a silver dial in this version. But if any one can confirm, that'd be cool. I can't get any info off of Breitling's website...it pretty much sucks or is hard to figure out/navigate.

Blue, black, yellow and orange only.

Just about all black dialed Breitlings have a bluish hue to them at some angles because of the AR coating.

316L
December 5th, 2008, 08:39
kiterpete,
that blue dialed beauty looks great

tigrpaw01@gmail.com
December 10th, 2008, 04:35
To be honest, I was never a fan of the dial on the SuperOcean, new or old. I like batons better than arabic, and I absolutely love my Chrono CSO. The steelfish face looks good as well. I believe anything applied to the dial is much nicer than painted on. This of course is just my opinion...

Arthur H
December 13th, 2008, 11:33
New one. no question has to be the new

Jamie
January 2nd, 2009, 01:44
I think the new dail is nicer and I love the hour hand from the SOH on the new version is really clean.

scamp
January 4th, 2009, 23:53
I have the older version and I prefer the filled in arabic numbers, although I prefer the hands and the larger logo on the new. Of the 2 I prefer the older model but thats just me.

Heres some pics of mine this version wasn't around to long as it had just replaced another previous version.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/halfsentry/Breitling/IMG_297212.jpg

on rubber

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/halfsentry/Breitling/IMG_30193m.jpg

crd26a
January 5th, 2009, 02:25
I just picked up the 08 version and looking at the pics between it and the 09, I'd have to easily say the 08 version (and voted that way). The larger logo is nice, but having the numbers filled in I think sets the dial off more.

oliverharris
January 6th, 2009, 22:11
Hi, I no longer own a Breitling, but it was a hell of a good watch!

I personally, think the larger Breitling wings logo on the new dial looks a bit clumsy. Not that sharp, delicate look that the normal Breitling dials have.

Go for whatever you fancy I would say, and even though the logo on the new dial is a tad over the top, it will certainly get noticed more by onlookers!

Regards,

Oliver.

suitekids
January 22nd, 2009, 14:08
I prefer the older version, the new dial is nice , I think it looks like it got cheaper. The bigger logo overpowers the dial now, but if it was the only way it was made I would have one anyway. But the choice would be the older 08 version. Which I have.....:-!

TourbillonvsMinuteRepeatr
January 29th, 2009, 19:28
I tried on the New one with the Black dial. :-d

peezie
January 29th, 2009, 23:29
Here's mine on the new Breitling Rubber and SS. Purchased the package in St Marteen on vacation for $1,800 US (plus 2 hours of negotiating) from the AD on the island.

Wow. That's nowhere near enough money to justify two hours of negotiation if you're an AD.:rodekaart

Agitater
February 1st, 2009, 02:22
I think the Arabic numerals on the new superOcean dial look unfinished - the quarter hours are solid; the rest use an outline. The large-ish quarter numerals on the Steelfish enhance the look of the dial as well as legibility. The new Steelfish inner bezel features - hallelujah! - Arabic five-minute markers which means you can tell the time when looking at the watch at any angle and in almost any light. Excellent. My old superOcean Pro only has five-minute and interval markers on the inner bezel - no numerals. Breitling also wisely decided to print main Arabic numerals without the useless drop shadow found on the old superOcean Pro and the new superOcean. That drop shadow has always been mildly off-putting because it looks somewhat like a misregistered double print when viewed at a certain angle and certainly never served to enhance legibility in any way. The drop shadow, I think, makes the dial look needlessly busy and does nothing to enhance functionality or appearance. BTW, one of the fundamental rules of successful print design and font use is to never use a drop shadow with an outline font. Somebody at Breitling should be spanked for the error on the superOcean dial IMO. I cupped my hand around the new superOcean dial and was not impressed by the lume on the outline numerals - another functional problem IMO.

The new crown guard design with flattened and extended shoulders looks better IMO than the narrower taper on my own superOcean Pro.

Let me add one heretical comment . . . I've always hated the oblique link and angled fliplock clasp offset of Breitling's Pilot and Pilot-style bracelets. I think it also looks especially unbalancing on a 'normal' size 40-42mm case. The rectangular, parallel offset link design of the old superOcean Pro bracelet is much more technical looking IMO and is more suitable for normal diameter case designs.

The crowns and screw-in backs don't appear to have changed.

The new antiglare coating seems optically better. I haven't noticed any of the blue-ish tint on the new crystal that is so easy to observe (in direct light) on the old superOcean Pro. Antiglare perfomance is excellent on both old and new models.

The lugs appear to have been slightly redesigned. The old superOcean Pro has a curved, tapered exterior lug contour. The new lug ends are wider and have a flatter tip which I think improves the overall technical appearance. On the 44mm Steelfish the new lug serves to somewhat compensate for my dislike of the Pilot-style bracelet (although I admit this bracelet is much better suited to the larger diameter). The new lugs work quite well with the bracelet IMO.

Still no screw mounts on the bezel quarter markers - only the same screws as usual on the bezel perimeter strap.

The back of the bracelet end links no longer feature extended stabilizing tabs. My AD wouldn't unmount the new bracelet on a showroom Steelfish for me, but it appears that the new bracelet slides onto a lug tab to help fix it in place. I'm guessing on this one. Somebody correct me please. If I'm correct though, it means that swapping a bracelet for a strap when you're in the mood will not be as easy with the new superOcean because although the lugs are better looking, they're still relatively short. Specially designed (and absurdly priced) Breitling straps anyone? That means any sort of bracelet locking/guide tab on the inside of the lugs could interfere with mounting a third-party strap (unless the strap is somehow notched). Once again, I'm guessing, but a bracelet end link without either extended stabilizing tabs or some sort of lug guides is not likely to be that securely mounted.

The polish level on the bracelet makes it look just a bit too much like jewellery for my taste. I prefer the matte finish of the old pro bracelet.

The minute track on the new Steelfish dial looks very technical and actually works to help legibility somewhat IMO. However, I think the new minute track also looks a bit old fashioned, but that's just an observation (not a criticism). The dial of the chronometer also states "chronometre certifie" but would be more accurately printed with the word "certifié" with the proper acute accent on the last 'e'. Somebody correct me with regard to French text printed in title case/small caps.

I think the new Steelfish chronometer is great looking although I still prefer the look of my older superOcean Pro. I *really* dislike the new bracelet, but I guess I've made that abundantly clear.

HelloNasty1
February 6th, 2009, 01:20
The back of the bracelet end links no longer feature extended stabilizing tabs. My AD wouldn't unmount the new bracelet on a showroom Steelfish for me, but it appears that the new bracelet slides onto a lug tab to help fix it in place. I'm guessing on this one. Somebody correct me please. If I'm correct though, it means that swapping a bracelet for a strap when you're in the mood will not be as easy with the new superOcean because although the lugs are better looking, they're still relatively short. Specially designed (and absurdly priced) Breitling straps anyone? That means any sort of bracelet locking/guide tab on the inside of the lugs could interfere with mounting a third-party strap (unless the strap is somehow notched). Once again, I'm guessing, but a bracelet end link without either extended stabilizing tabs or some sort of lug guides is not likely to be that securely mounted.


I did get the new version and have since sent it to Flipperville. But I did do strap changes on it with no issues. Not sure what you mean about the inside of the lugs. They are smooth and easy to add a strap onto like most lugs that use spring bars.

mels95yj
February 18th, 2009, 16:54
I prefer the older dial. Mine is the older version, but came with the newer bezel that doesn't have the blackened numbers. I prefer it this way. I guess I just got lucky.

Mel

wakanga1955
March 14th, 2009, 07:11
Hi, better late, rather than not joining the party. :-)

Also, I have no intention of hijacking this old thread, but just want to share pictures of my "old" SuperOcean--older than the old one.:-d

Here's my old friend.

Cheers!

Vercingetorix51
May 2nd, 2009, 08:09
I purchased the New Superocean in Mar/09 with the black dial. The rubber divers strap it came with is ultra comfortable, if not a bit casual. The time it keeps is excellent and the lume is great. The High contrast dial puts my other watches to shame.

jiber172r
May 8th, 2009, 06:18
I've been offered a brand new SuperOcean, of the new model at my AD for $2300 (canadian dollars) taxes in, out the door....very tempting, as it's almost 30% off...

I'm wondering if I should jump on it at that price. Decisions decisions...

g-star
May 9th, 2009, 03:12
Can someone please post a picture of each for reference?

Thanks!
Here is the old with the new.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll255/rinfuso1/superocean3.jpg

Vercingetorix51
May 13th, 2009, 23:48
I prefer the hands on mine vs. the new arrow hour hand. Mine is a little busy on the dial, but the lume markers are awesome.


http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=185032&d=1242108589
From TX

MacDaddy
May 14th, 2009, 00:19
+1 old style. I think they both look cool but I prefer the old style with lume on the numbers. I think that visibility at night is important. And I'm a lume nut:-d

babola
May 30th, 2009, 01:50
I would go for the old model, personally.

LFCRules
June 1st, 2009, 23:12
Old model.....but with new bezel b-)

Astro_train
November 8th, 2009, 06:26
I prefer the older style with the solid numbers and I am more partial to the black faced as opposed to the blue one.

Astro_train
November 8th, 2009, 06:31
Hi, better late, rather than not joining the party. :-)

Also, I have no intention of hijacking this old thread, but just want to share pictures of my "old" SuperOcean--older than the old one.:-d

Here's my old friend.

Cheers!

was this "old" SuperOcean diameter also a 45mm? The GMT Master is a 40mm but it looks so close in size... or is it just me ;-)

Sorry for the extra hijack but I really thought about selling my SuperAvenger and saving up for a GMT Master II.:think:

Vercingetorix51
November 8th, 2009, 06:48
was this "old" SuperOcean diameter also a 45mm? The GMT Master is a 40mm but it looks so close in size... or is it just me ;-)

Sorry for the extra hijack but I really thought about selling my SuperAvenger and saving up for a GMT Master II.:think:

The specs are, I believe, the same (42mm w/out crown) on the new model as the more recent old model.

Sam

http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt230/Vgex/B%20ling%20in/Hiding.jpg?t=1257655597

Split Second
November 9th, 2009, 16:21
Granted, I am biased as an owner of the outgoing model Superocean, but as do prefer the fact that the numbers are all filled in, and don't like what Breitling did to the "fifteen" by the date window.

Outgoing face is just more classic, IMHO.

mike.

O2AFAC67
November 9th, 2009, 17:17
The poll has been adequately answered. It's 15 months old. :roll: Closing the thread now. :rodekaart Thanks for your participation. :thanks
Best,
Ron