Updates

[sapcmc]

As promised please find current status of things:

As you may be aware Prometheus Watches will have at least for now most watches produced in China with Asian movements. Difficulties in sourcing Swiss movements and the fact that Asian movements and Chinese ones in particular are improving considerably made me take the decision to move forward with this strategy.
Besides increases in quality/reliability of Chinese movements most watch cases nowadays are made in China even for quite known German and Swiss brands so quality wise I do not foresee issues.
In order to secure production of Prometheus Watches I have traveled to Hong Kong this August where I have visited my business partner there, Mr Amos Chan and managed to visit factories that are/will produce current and future models.
Visit was quite fruitful and I would like to share with you some photos I have taken :

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0062.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0064.jpg


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0065.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0066.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0067.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0068.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0073.jpg


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0076.jpg


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0080.jpg


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0082.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0091.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0093.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/CIMG0094.jpg


Now for the watch models. At the moment we will have two, a watch chrono and a diver's watch.



Watch Chrono Specs:

316L Solid Stainless Steel Case 42mm
Swiss lume
Rotating Top Ring
Sapphire Crystal
Shanghai Automatic Chronograph Movement 3LZF2
Solid Stainless Steel Band
Solid Stainless Steel Double-push buckle
Solid Stainless Steel See-through caseback
20 ATM Water Resistant
Weight: 152 g



This are the initial photos of prototype

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/P7010082.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/P7010087.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/P7010089.jpg


presentation box to be used for all future models (I find it quite practical):

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/P7010099.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/P7010091.jpg

Since initial prototype and during stay in Hong Kong chrono prototype has changed a bit and dial is now more smoother, easier to read and with extra lume.
You can find below photos of model that will be closer from production chrono:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/P8070598.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/P8070599.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/P8070601.jpg


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/P8070602.jpg

Watch chrono is expected to be available at end of October. Still early to provide a final price but it will cost around 350 EUR + shipping costs + import taxes when applicable. As this is a launch of brand all Watchuseek members will be entitled to have a 20% discount during launch phase.



Watch Diver Specs (Ocean Diver model):

316L Solid Stainless Steel Case 42mm
Seiko lumibrite (similar to one used in Seiko Monster, so expect plenty of lume :-!)
20 mm lug width
limited production of 500 watches
Unidirection internal rotating bezel (feature usually found only at high grade Swiss watch models)
Sapphire Crystal
Seagull ST16 movement
Screwed in crows for both bezel and watch hands
Screwed in lug bars
Waterproof hardened leather strap
Solid Stainless Steel See-through caseback
30 ATM Water Resistant



Design wise there were no major changes in Brian's initial design but last drawing to be used can be found here:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/OS08072401-OceanDiver.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/Ocean_Diver_final.jpg

Some technical drawings of watch

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/blueprint1.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/blueprint2.jpg


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/blueprint3.jpg


3d rendering of watch design:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/072401-1.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/072401-2.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/072401-4.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/072401-6.jpg


in drawing below we can see how watch will look like in the dark:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/ocean_diver_lumeshot.jpg


and in terms of lume we can see below how it will compare with tritium tube watches (in photo it is used a seiko monster, image taken from a post thread in WUS forum)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/LumeTest.jpg

some details of strap to be used

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/strap1.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/strap2.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/sapcmc/strap3.jpg

Tooling of diver's watch already started and in about 60 days prototype will be ready. By then it will then be possible to do some fine tuning and model is expected to be available at end of November, early December. Due to some fine tuning made (unidirectional inner rotating bezel), leather band, seiko lume) final price will be a bit higher than antecipated but still will be around 200 EUR (without shipping and taxes) and as for watch chrono all Watchuseek members will be entitled to have a 20% discount during launch phase.

I have to thank once more Brian and Amos for all efforts made in order to be able to present such a great diver's watch.

That is all for now and I hope post didn't end up being that long :thanks .

[sapcmc]

Feel free to post comments, questions, suggestions.

[ventura]

Congrats. They look ace and very affordable !!

[Ax]

Great stuff. I'll be keeping an eye on that diver! |>
Good luck!

[sapcmc]

Forgot to mention all watches will be sold with 1 year International Warranty.

[Dookie]

Looks good, lookin forward to the ocean diver! Good luck on your new endevour. :-!:-!

[sapcmc]

Yes Brian's Ocean Diver will be a great watch!

[aliasrichmond]

Good luck guys, diver looks great, not sure about the chrono, maybe a bit bling? consider going all brushed instead of polished:-!

[whifferdill]

Two great looking models at an affordable price - great to see!

How thick is the chrono case?

[sapcmc]

Will check it and will let you guys know.

[whifferdill]

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[Aaron Weikart]

My god, that chronograph is gorgeous! :-p

[Chuck P]

I may have found my first diver!

:-!


CP

[leejay]

Great looking watch there. One thing to check on those movements. When you are doing your QC - be sure to look at the day wheel. I have found that many of the watches that have that movement have "loose" day wheels which will jiggle around as you move your hand from one position to the next. The date wheel works great though.

[leejay]

Are the pushers not screwed all the way in? It seems like they are a little too far out.

[Malyel]

I really like the look of the chronograph. :-! However the logo on the dial of the diver really clashes with the size and font of the "OCEAN DIVER" text. Personally I would rather see the Prometheus logo on the diver moved to the same location as the chronograph (above the day/date). :think:

[IslanderFan]

Congratulations and best of luck. Both watches look great |>

[zippofan]

Awesome :-!
I'll be on the lookout for the release of that diver, I love internal bezels.

Congratulations on launching a new company, and the best of luck to you!

Best regards,
Griff

[giosdad]

Two good looking watches so far. I would love to know the thickness on both. It is hard to see the thickness on the drawings on my laptop for the diver. I will look forward to updates on availability, especially on that diver.

Great pictures of the production plant. I was always under the impression that pictures could not be taken. It is great to see a glimpse of what goes on at these plants.

[Jarhead Jessup]

Awesome designs there! Very cool, I will have to keep my eye on that diver.
Good luck!

[specialk]

I'm in love with the chrono, I'll definitely be purchasing at least one! Keep us updated, and good luck!

[ikkoku]

awesome watches... both of them... I'll be waiting for the Chrono... is there a strap only option for the chrono instead of the braelet?

[Ricehead]

SWEET MOTHER OF MOSES!!

Where is the mailing list, and whats the required deposit to secure my spot on the list for the Ocean?? I want #500!!

[sapcmc]

How thick is the chrono case?

Greetings, I finally got information requested. Chrono thickness is 16mm (top to bottom). Top bezel thickness is 2mm (excluding slope top which is a bit less than 1 mm).

[sapcmc]

Great looking watch there. One thing to check on those movements. When you are doing your QC - be sure to look at the day wheel. I have found that many of the watches that have that movement have "loose" day wheels which will jiggle around as you move your hand from one position to the next. The date wheel works great though.

Thanks and no worries as all watches will endur QC checks.

[sapcmc]

Chrono should be available at around end of October.

[sapcmc]

Hmmm, I think it will take a while to get #500, as production will be made in 2 different batches of 250 units each in order to have them ready on time. In case you want to join mailing list you just have to register yourself at http://prometheuswatch.com/create_account.php .
At time of registration you have got option to choose Newsletter so that you are always up to date.

[sapcmc]

Chrono will be shipped with stainless steel strap. However you are free to exchange straps as soon as you receive it.

[sapcmc]

Are the pushers not screwed all the way in? It seems like they are a little too far out.

Chrono is completely sealed with screwed in push buttons.

[sixtysix]

Nice job on the watches! I have not been buying as many Chronos lately, but the diver is awesome and I think I would have to have one! Now if I only could get #66/500! Pictures and info are awesome...thanks for showing us all the details!

[sapcmc]

Thanks guys. I see plenty of people are trying to secure specific numbers. Just don't know how feasible this can be in terms of organizing things from my side as it may become a headache in terms of logistics.
Just a question. How important is to you guys being able to secure specific numbers?

[sapcmc]

I would love to know the thickness on both.


Chrono thickness is 16mm (top to bottom). Top bezel thickness is 2mm (excluding slope top which is a bit less than 1 mm).

Diver's case is about 10.4mm thick. With crystal and caseback total thickness will be of about 13.60 mm.

[sixtysix]

Thanks guys. I see plenty of people are trying to secure specific numbers. Just don't know how feasible this can be in terms of organizing things from my side as it may become a headache in terms of logistics.
Just a question. How important is to you guys being able to secure specific numbers?

To me it's not that big a deal....very nice to be able to pick the number (makes it more special) but not a deal breaker in any case. If the ability to pay ahead and secure a certain number becomes available, I would use it. Since my name is the number |>

[giosdad]

Chrono thickness is 16mm (top to bottom). Top bezel thickness is 2mm (excluding slope top which is a bit less than 1 mm).

Diver's case is about 10.4mm thick. With crystal and caseback total thickness will be of about 13.60 mm.


Thanks for the replies on these specs.

[whifferdill]

Greetings, I finally got information requested. Chrono thickness is 16mm (top to bottom). Top bezel thickness is 2mm (excluding slope top which is a bit less than 1 mm).

Thanks for the quick reply. That extra info should be useful to anyone considering this model. Size wise, it should wear the same as a Sinn 103.

I really like the red chrono hands btw, and the bracelet looks very nice.

[whifferdill]

I know it's early days, but are there any plans / thoughts for a GMT version of the Ocean Diver in the future once these models are established?

[sapcmc]

I know it's early days, but are there any plans / thoughts for a GMT version of the Ocean Diver in the future once these models are established?
Hard to tell, it will all depend on sales performance of original Ocean Diver and not forgetting Brian is the owner of design, so that will have to be discussed between me and him in future.

[saeed]

Very nice looking diver, how do we register to get our choice for the number looking for 7 or 13. a very sexy looking watch :-!

[sapcmc]

Very nice looking diver, how do we register to get our choice for the number looking for 7 or 13. a very sexy looking watch :-!

I hear you but as I said before I just don't know how feasible this can be in terms of logistics. I have a webstore that should provide all support I need for the stock controls, shipping, pre-sales but doesn't have any feature of controlling serial numbers. Quite tricky to do so.

[pompe]

the diver looks great i will sign up for one of those as soon as possible.
however is it possible to get a bracelet with solid end/links that will fit snugly to the case for the diver to?

[sapcmc]

Diver will be shipped with leather strap. However you will be able to find in market a multitude of 20mm straps that can be used.

[JAD3703]

For some reason I cannot see the pics, despite several refreshes and opens / closes. Any ideas?

James

[sapcmc]

Couldn't it be your browser? Firewall?
They are hosted at photobucket and so far nobody else complained about it. In case you want to drop me a pm with your email adress and I can send them to you by mail.

[JAD3703]

Nope, didn't work. And my firewall / browser are working fine.

I'll PM you.

James

[BMD]

Very clean, cool looking designs. Not a big chrono fan...buuuut you got me thinking about that one! Really nice diver too!

Looking forward to the final products!

[whifferdill]

Hard to tell, it will all depend on sales performance of original Ocean Diver and not forgetting Brian is the owner of design, so that will have to be discussed between me and him in future.

I'll be watching with keen interest! Good luck once again and all the best for this exciting venture.

[Peter Atwood]

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[PShow]

Dive watch looks interesting. Would love to see Sword hands/Ploprof hands available. Various dial colors with contrasting second hand. I also think that the Ocean Diver lettering is a tad too large. Not a fan of the words above and below the date wheel. Reminded me of the Mido All Dial M83704589.

Chrono reminded me or Sinn instantly!

Best of luck! :-!

[sapcmc]

Thanks for your input. All comments are appreciated and will help define new models.
I can see you like the chrono!

[Bujumon]

Wow, I love the Ocean Diver...

Looking forward to seeing some pix and pricing.

The best of luck.

Peace,
Scott

[sapcmc]

As for Ocean Diver's photos are still not possible as prototype is being built.
Regarding pricing it has already been mentioned it will be around 200 EUR + Shipping + taxes where applicable.

[ikkoku]

I hear you but as I said before I just don't know how feasible this can be in terms of logistics. I have a webstore that should provide all support I need for the stock controls, shipping, pre-sales but doesn't have any feature of controlling serial numbers. Quite tricky to do so.

Maybe there's a way we can put in a request for numbers or preferences. Not guaranteed, but you'll try your best to match.

When is the launch? and when is the a pre-launch (pre-order) option?

[ikkoku]

Thanks for your input. All comments are appreciated and will help define new models.
I can see you like the chrono!


Like the chrono. a brushed version would be good also. No bracelet (eg cheaper) option would be good for folks that like rubber or leather straps.

what's the lug size of the chrono?

[JAD3703]

Carlos,

We chatted already. I still think that it is possible to reserve / sell / dispatch by requested serial number, as long as you receive the watches from the factory and then do final packaging / dispatch vice trying to manage and dispatch directly from the factory (which would be a recipe for confusion and probable disaster).

Anyway, just my thoughts.

James

[Caliper1681]

Ocean Diver:-p|>|> sign me up!!

[JAD3703]

Ocean Diver:-p|>|> sign me up!!

I agree. I like the Chrono, but I'm wild about the Ocean Diver and it will definitely be the watch that I get, once it's ready to go.

James

[cheff1983]

Diver will be shipped with leather strap. However you will be able to find in market a multitude of 20mm straps that can be used.

only 20mm strap on the diver. That's a bummer. but still a very nice design. I will probably be ordering one real soon.


Is there a release date in mind for the ocean diver?

[sapcmc]

I will see what I will be able to do regarding serial numbers. Regarding pre-order option I think it may not be a good idea as I don't want to have angry customers. Imagine there is a delay with production of watch? How would it be then? I prefer to establish target dates and as soon watch is available start to sell them.
Chrono should be available for shipping at mid/end October and Ocean Diver at end November/early December.

[sapcmc]

Yes, diver will be available at around end November/early December.

[JAD3703]

Yes, diver will be available at around end November/early December.

Awesome news, Carlos.

James

[3Dials]

Best of luck to you and your new watch company, sapcmc! I like the look of both your Chrono and the Diver, as they are reminiscent of Sinn and Bathys watches respectively (albeit perhaps a bit more affordable).

[sapcmc]

what's the lug size of the chrono?

Chrono lug size is 20 mm

[VG3]

I'm really digging the diver.

[lexvil]

the watches look ok, if i were to offer a suggestion on the diver it would be an option of a non date model with nothing written on the dial {i would also leave the large numbers and just have the stick markers} these two things would make it a very likely purchase, as is it sits at a maybe buy.

[rolexio]

Diver looks nice, I like it.

[Loddonite]

2 handsome looking watches.
Good luck with the venture.

[duke4c]

Some folks said long time ago that China is comming... I say China is here... all indications are that China made ETA clones are already as good as Swiss counterparts... that's what happens when you don't inovate for decades... if you don't beleve me just ask folks at China Watch forum...

Seiously, who in their right mind can refuse such a product at such a price? AWESOME!

We're looking at the future boys and girls... and it's right here , right now...

Cheers and best of luck with your venture!
:-!

[Nick4]

I really like the Ocean Diver, it has exactly what I want, day/date, auto, and internal bezel. It is hard to find all that stuff in one watch, infact I don't know if there is another with all that stuff.

The only problem I can find is what another poster already pointed out, the difference in the fonts between the logo for Prometheus and the words "Ocean Diver." THe script style of "Prometheus" and the blocky, aggressive style of "Ocean Diver" is unbalanced. I kinda bugs me, but I still think I will be getting the watch. It offers a lot and the price is great.

[sapcmc]

Yes, China is producing good movements and they keep improving and inovating day by day.
I wouldn't be surprised if they will surpass the Swiss in terms of innovation in less than 5 years.

[polaco23]

I NEED one of those chronos!!! Best of luck with the venture and youll be hearing from me once these things hit market. Supurb job on the design.

[sapcmc]

Thanks for the support here.

[sapcmc]

In case you want to be informed as soon as chrono arrives I advice you to subscribe to our Newsletter.
It is fairly easy to do so, all you have to do is register at our website and leave option Newsletter flagged in http://www.prometheuswatch.com/create_account.php

[octopussy]

wow, the 2 watches look awesome, esp. the ocean diver! Price is affordable! Reserve 2 pieces each for me... one for me, one for my wife... the case size is just unisex-y. Do keep us informed especially when they are ready for sale.

[sapcmc]

Greetings I will be updating status here at forum but advise everyone to register at Prometheus Watch webpage so that you can subscribe for Newsletter.

[octopussy]

Greetings I will be updating all of you of status here but advice everyone to register at Prometheus Watch webpage so that you can subscribe for Newsletter.

thanks for quick response! Just did it.

Thanks.

[paul@orbvalley]

Hi
Lovin' the chrono,it would be a nice option to reserve serial #'s
Paul

[mrpete]

how about some watch model name suggestions?
Chrono: Icarus
Diver: leonidus

[sapcmc]

Yes it is an idea for the future but Chrono already has name CR1 and diver Ocean Diver

[Holden]

Please consider a custom logotype for the name Prometheus. The script typestyle currently used (looks like Palace Script MT) is suitable for text on a wedding invitation. As for the flame design for the logo, it is appropriate although I think it could be stylized a bit.
Maybe a contest could be formed for this purpose. As a designer I'm typically in the "say no to spec" camp (see no-spec.com) but as a watch lover I can't stand to see a beautiful watch design ruined by a terrible logotype.

[Carl.1]

I would buy either of these watches but really do not like the font for the logo name nor the logo itself.

The flame looks like a logo more suited to a gas lighter and as it is tall and thin it holds no balance within the watch face.

This one factor could well stop me buying the watch, which would be a shame as all else i like.

[lexvil]

I would buy either of these watches but really do not like the font for the logo name nor the logo itself.

The flame looks like a logo more suited to a gas lighter and as it is tall and thin it holds no balance within the watch face.

This one factor could well stop me buying the watch, which would be a shame as all else i like.

i agree that both watches are nice in basic design {still cannot see any reason whatsoever for a day/date in a diver} and so far the dial design would need to be changed to a much simpler one, my hope would be for nothing more than the company name to be on the dial in small thing script, like Precista does on the PRS 14 or Ocean 7 does on their watches. just no need for so much obtrusive writing

[sapcmc]

We are respecting to 100% design that won design competition. I love design but I am aware it is not possible to please everyone as with any other product.
I appreciate all your inputs as this will really help us building future models.

[dbluefish]

Well I am on for the newsletter but the chrono being polished makes it a no go for me. Polished, like blasted, attracs scratches like honey draws bears! My choice would be for the brushed finish and brushed bracelet.

The diver is the one I may go for. A bit like the O7 LM2 with the internal bezel so not a real diver. But I hope you can find a way to keep the integrity of the designer and still have absolutely minimal "stuff" on the dial. Folks can ask if they want to know and us, the consumer will know already who made the watch. JMHO! Oh one last point. As I undertand it the lug space for both will be 20mm. That is tiny for a 45mm watch, and since the Diver comes with a strap, try to offer it with a 24mm, notched to 20mm. That watch is bold enought to handle it.

Props to the designer of the Diver.

paul

[Nick4]

i agree that both watches are nice in basic design {still cannot see any reason whatsoever for a day/date in a diver

I think you are right, there really isn't any need for a day/date on a true dive watch. But, I love watches that have both. And unfortunately for me, there are not many watches outside of military style (well, not that many watches period) that have both day and date. I work at night, and when you are on your 4th or 5th night in a row, sometimes at 3 in the morning you really do need a reminder as to what day you are now on. 'Course I am not a diver, I just like the watches.

[lexvil]

I think you are right, there really isn't any need for a day/date on a true dive watch. But, I love watches that have both. And unfortunately for me, there are not many watches outside of military style (well, not that many watches period) that have both day and date. I work at night, and when you are on your 4th or 5th night in a row, sometimes at 3 in the morning you really do need a reminder as to what day you are now on. 'Course I am not a diver, I just like the watches.

until last year i went 10 years with just one watch {the tail end of having to try everything out there after 15 or more years with a SM 300 date, and i owned just about everything available even if for a short time, all were lacking in some way}, a SMP chrono. even though i found the SMP a bit thick it served the one watch thing very well, life is very simple when you don't have to decide what to wear as far as watches go, wish i still had the old SM but the Precista serves the nostalgia need pretty well. i have a very limited range of what is acceptable to me, i don't like flash or catchy edges, i don't like excessive or obtrusive writing on the dial, i am not out to impress anyone. i work shifts too and sometimes i don't know what day it is but i don't want my watch dial cluttered up with it as there are far to many other ways to find the day of the week it is which are not effected by an error factor like my watch being 12 hours out of sync {which happens sometimes} all of my watches get wet, they all go under water at some point so i prefer highly water resistant watches. i like the case and inner bezel of these watches but the dial is far to cluttered in my opinion, the O7 LM2 has a great dial but looks ridiculous at 44mm with this style {i like 44/45mm but when it presents as all dial like these do it is just not aesthetically pleasing to my eye. so this watch is one i would try if the dial were different but not as is {the only advantage to getting old is finally knowing what you like}

[HalifaxNS]

Just a couple of quick questions, im full of them:-d

Will the date window on the ocean diver be the same size as the the one on the chrono?

How long do you (Carlos) think it will be until you get a picture of a ocean diver? month or two?

[993Targa]

For me I NEED #13. My lucky number and I really want a low serial.

[sapcmc]

Date window is of similar size and in a month or so we should be able to see some photos.

[HalifaxNS]

Thanks :-!

[smurfe]

Oh one last point. As I undertand it the lug space for both will be 20mm. That is tiny for a 45mm watch, and since the Diver comes with a strap, try to offer it with a 24mm, notched to 20mm. That watch is bold enought to handle it.

Props to the designer of the Diver.

paul

Good points and the only mild reservation I have. 20mm is sort of small for a watch that size. 22mm would of been fine though although many prefer 24mm. I will probably go the route suggested as I have all sorts of rubber and silicon straps around.

[993Targa]

Question - is the Ocean Diver brushed finish? I hope so! :thanks

[sapcmc]

Hi there, yes it will have a Brushed finish.

[Bloom]

I'm really liking the Chronograph (although I wish it had 22 or 24mm lugs), and I wanted to know if there is lume at the 12:00 position on the bezel? In the pictures it looks like there isn't a lume pip there, but I wanted to check. Also, do you know what type of lume you're using on the chrono, i.e. C3 etc...?

Thanks!

[sapcmc]

I'm really liking the Chronograph (although I wish it had 22 or 24mm lugs), and I wanted to know if there is lume at the 12:00 position on the bezel? In the pictures it looks like there isn't a lume pip there, but I wanted to check. Also, do you know what type of lume you're using on the chrono, i.e. C3 etc...?

Thanks!

As chronograph is not a diver's we took decision of not adding lume in rotating bezel.
As for dial and hands lume we are using Swiss lume but a tad less bright than C3. If you are looking at a watch with extra lume even more luminous than C3 go for the Ocean Diver.

[sunster]

I agree with many posters regading the style of the text/ logo on the dial. A bit more minimalistic would be desirable. Again a larger lug widths would suit the proportions of this size of watch better.
As a matter fo interest where will the watches be shipped from in view of prospective purchases and import duties?

[sapcmc]

Watches will be shipped from Europe so everyone living outside European Union is liable for import taxes.
All EU residents have to pay for VAT.

[sunster]

Does the €200 say for the OD include VAT? Where in Europe you shipping from?

Congrats on the new brand and best of luck

[sapcmc]

All prices quoted are net prices, so it means without any tax or shipping.
This means EU buyers have to pay for VAT and customers outside EU are liable for import taxes.
I will be shipping from Portugal.

[KBW&]

All prices quoted are net prices, so it means without any tax or shipping.
This means EU buyers have to pay for VAT and customers outside EU are liable for import taxes.
I will be shipping from Portugal.

SAPCMC I can't wait to have my Ocean Diver. I'm paying the second I'm able to.

[lucduc]

Good to hear that the diver will be a brushed finish.

Will the second hand move in 1 second intervals or in fractions of seconds intervals?

[sapcmc]

movement used is a Seagull ST16 so it will move in fractions of seconds.

[djmattm]

the OD is gorgeous but i feel that 22 or 24 mm lug-to-lug size would be better for this kind of watch,i think many people here agree

[benzslrpee]

i think the technical aspects and price point of the watch is pretty fundamentally sound, but i would change the following in regards to aesthetics if you guys do a version 2.0 or something.

for the chrono: the right side of the dial is too busy looking. you have "Prometheus" in a nice cursive font, then "week/day" in another font, then "Automatic" in yet another different font. if they are going to be placed in close proximity then "Prometheus" and "Automatic" should match, or one of them should be placed further away...like "Automatic" can go in little letters by the 6 o'clock position or something. either that or lose the "week" and just leave the "day".

for the diver: again, font type...if "Ocean Diver" is going to be on the bottom half of the watch face then should not be italicized or that large. i would even go so far as to say lose the bold type as well. italics makes it look like an after thought especially since the numbers are just regular font, and the bold type makes it compete with the "6" for the attention of the eye. if the purpose was to let consumers distinguish between "company name" and "watch model" then move it closer to the company logo thus giving the italicized letters a purpose. i think whichever out come will look more in unison with the automatic/date/day/depth font (which all matched).

before i offend somebody i'm just nitpicking here; however, i'm not indiscriminately pulling crap outta thin air either. take a look from older horological companies that have a massive budget for design (Breitling, Rolex, Omega, Seiko, Pannerai etc) and you can see a lot of what i'm talking about in terms font type and placement. while i understand some smaller modern day watch outfits doesn't necessarily view the older establishments as role models but many of their designs haven't changed much for a reason.

obviously, with the current design this company has a healthy amount of buyers judging from the poll in another thread :-! so they can, with good measure, tell me to go pound sand. the owner seemed welcomed to suggestions so i just offered my $0.05 :-d

[sapcmc]

Thanks for the suggestions, they are all appreciated :-!.

[specialk]

Is there any eta on when there will be pictures of a real life ocean diver?

[sapcmc]

Prometheus watches only use the best Chinese components so do not expect us to use Swiss movements. Ocean Diver will use a Seagul ST16 movement.
As for photos of Ocean Diver prototype we should be able to show them in about three weeks time. There is a slight delay as factories in China were hardly working last week due to National Holiday and won't be at 100% till the 8th of October.

[specialk]

I'm sorry thats what I mean, was there any timeframe on when pics of the ocean diver prototype would be available, I was aware of the movements. Thanks!

[gprider]

Thanks guys. I see plenty of people are trying to secure specific numbers. Just don't know how feasible this can be in terms of organizing things from my side as it may become a headache in terms of logistics.
Just a question. How important is to you guys being able to secure specific numbers?


Not that important for me but where, when and how can we purchase the chrono?

Larry

[sapcmc]

At the moment we don't have watches available for sale.
Watch chrono should be available at around mid November (slight delay due to Chinese Holidays) and Ocean Diver should be available at early December.
In case you are interested in chrono as you seem to be you can reserve a number. Have a look at this thread here http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=182220 .
As soon as watches are available they can be purchased at Prometheus Website http://www.prometheuswatch.com (http://www.prometheuswatch.com/) . In order for you to be up to date on watches availability advice you to register as a customer and subscribe to our Newsletter http://prometheuswatch.com/create_account.php .

[Shogan191]

I think the watch (chrono) is fantastic just like the pic was put up. I'm not much for copying others tried and true. Nothing wrong with looking like a Prothmetheus instead of a "nameit".

It's going to be a great looking watch.

[workaholic_ro]

I think that Ocean Diver is a far more interesting and original design than the chrono, which is just another watch looking that way, though for a better price than it's "sisters".
I would never blame anyone for taking a glance at other watches when designing some small details, it is a common practice and I don't find anything wrong in it as far as the new design is not the mirror of another one. We can't all and always reinvent the wheel.
And now, the questions (related to the above considerations):
1. The Longines Legend crown pattern looks better imo, if that was the source of inspiration why didn't you keep it that way ? Just not to be an exact copy ? I also think that would have been nice to use it in another place too, as the dial or maybe the buckle as Longines did.
2. The Rolex O-ring arrangement in the crown tube is a perpetual mystery to me. I had never met it anywhere else, just in Rolex watches and it's pretty obvious that not watchmakers invented the seals, they had to use the long experience gained in the pneumatic and hydraulic systems.
I know that I would never get an answer from Rolex for this question so I'm asking you. What is the reason for using that twin O-ring arrangement ?
I personally can't find any technical improvement compared to a single O-ring or single O-ring + backup ring.

[Mr.Boots]

Definitely looking forward to the Ocean Diver!

[chansigril]

did i read the first post correctly? wus members are entitled to 20% off the price of just the chrono, or does that apply to both the chrono and the ocean diver?

do we have an estimated total cost of the ocean diver, including shipping to the united states? an update please :-)

[sapcmc]

Greetings,

Both models will have a 20% discount at launch phase.

This means price of Ocean Diver to the US if today would be:

price : 200 EUR
discount : -40 EUR
price after discount : 160 EUR
shipping costs to US via UPS : 50 EUR
Total cost with shipping : 210 EUR

Please be aware cost of shipping is not per unit but per order. This means that if you orders 2 watches you end up paying the same amount for the shipment.

[d4dve]

I didn't realise wus members get 20% discount on the Ocean Diver. It just gets better and better!

[MMarcB]

What will be the shipping fee for the members in Europe?

[sapcmc]

It will be less, fee will be of around 40 EUR.

[chansigril]

Greetings,

Both models will have a 20% discount at launch phase.

This means price of Ocean Diver to the US if today would be:

price : 200 EUR
discount : -40 EUR
price after discount : 160 EUR
shipping costs to US via UPS : 50 EUR
Total cost with shipping : 210 EUR

Please be aware cost of shipping is not per unit but per order. This means that if you orders 2 watches you end up paying the same amount for the shipment.

price on watch is good, so long as the euro:dollar stays where it's at :-d comes out to ~$210 |>

shipping price is kinda ridiculous tho :-| comes out to ~$65 to ship a watch to the u.s. <|

still coming out at total cost of ~$275, still under $300... which is what i have budgeted for the watch, so it's ok :think:

thanks for the update, are we still looking at likely sometime in late december or early january for the ocean diver?

[sapcmc]

Ocean Diver should be ready around mid January.
As for cost of shipping don't blame me, this are the real costs.

[Lencoth]

Ocean Diver should be ready around mid January.
As for cost of shipping don't blame me, this are the real costs.

Sure that these are your real costs. However, for instance, Stowa asks EUR 24 (inclusive of VAT) for Fedex within Europe. Perhaps you may want to look at less costly alternatives to UPS :think:

[sapcmc]

Ok, probably this is something you guys are not aware but other brands don't have their costs as visible as Prometheus has. They incorporate in watch price part if not all costs of shipment.
In my point of view this is wrong, specially if you buy like 2 or more watches at the same time.
Why should you pay 15, 20% or more on the watch price to hide some shipping costs?

[sapcmc]

In case you have missed the news, Ocean Diver prototype has been shipped.
You can find latest photos here - http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=206816

[malfun69]

hi carlos,
what will be the cost of of shipping to dubai?
thanks.

[sapcmc]

Shipping cost to Dubai is 65 EUR. If you do a simulation at UPS website from Portugal to Dubai you can actually see they charge 102.03 EUR, so price I charge is quite reasonable.

[malfun69]

Shipping cost to Dubai is 65 EUR. If you do a simulation at UPS website from Portugal to Dubai you can actually see they charge 102.03 EUR, so price I charge is quite reasonable.

can't complain and do much about the charges.:roll:

thanks for the info.

[chansigril]

shipping price is kinda ridiculous tho :-| comes out to ~$65 to ship a watch to the u.s. <|

Ocean Diver should be ready around mid January.
As for cost of shipping don't blame me, this are the real costs.

i wasn't blaming you ;-) just saying the shipping price is kinda ridiculous. i know it's actual cost or close to it but the amount ups is charging is high. there are less expensive options, but ups may be the best choice for making sure it arrives in a timely and safe manner.

very much looking forward to the watch :-)