Just looked at the PO 2208.50 Ornge bezel...dissapointed

[Legmaker72]

I have been drooling over photographs of the PO 2208.50 with the orange bezel and I had an AD get one in for me to look at...I have to say, I was really dissapointed. The black dial almost appears greyish and I expected more dramatic color, but I wasn't impressed..It photographs well though!

Now, they also had a Black Bezel PO with the Orange numbers, but it was the Chrono model...now that was a fantastic looking watch! :-pThe chrono price is out of my comfort level though!
Oh well...I guess I can remove the 2208.50 off my grail list.:roll:

[Ozz]

It really depends on the lighting, mine only looks grey under bright sunlight or halogene lighting.

Perhaps you just saw it at the AD under that bright lighting?

Yes its not deep black but thats exaclty what I like of it.

[paduncan]

I was also eager to pick up a PO with the orange numbers, black bezel. In person, it just didn't have the wow factor for me.

[Legmaker72]

Funny thing is every time I get on this forum and see the orange bezel in the banner above, I'm like, "what a beautiful watch". :-s

[paduncan]

Funny thing is every time I get on this forum and see the orange bezel in the banner above, I'm like, "what a beautiful watch". :-s

That photo is enhanced quite a bit.

[mthwatch]

I actually like the matte black dial quite a bit. Yes, it isn't a deep, jet black. But I keep mine on the rubber strap often, and it looks really good that way. They both kind of match so that I don't end up with a watch that has three shades of black (dial, strap, and bezel). I also like the way that the shinier black of the bezel stands out a bit more, which lends the watch just a tiny bit of flair.

[bartwatkins]

I actually like the matte black dial quite a bit. Yes, it isn't a deep, jet black. But I keep mine on the rubber strap often, and it looks really good that way. They both kind of match so that I don't end up with a watch that has three shades of black (dial, strap, and bezel). I also like the way that the shinier black of the bezel stands out a bit more, which lends the watch just a tiny bit of flair.

Yeah, me too!!! I'm with you on this...
I purchased mine back in October and it's 2 months down the road and I love it just as much as the day I got it. I got the Orange bezel one as my wife liked the color better but I like the black bezel just as much if not more. The matte watch face and the steel & the rubber strap all are awesome. I just can't wait to get this baby down to the beach when the weather is warmer (like you did on you recent trip/cruise).

[GregB]

"That photo is enhanced quite a bit."

Must've used Omegra.

- GregB

[paduncan]

"That photo is enhanced quite a bit."

Must've used Omegra.

- GregB

Perhaps...I also heard there is this nifty program called photoshop. :roll:

[SpringDriven]

Enhanced in what way? I perceive your statements as negative.

To remove glare so you can see the watch better?

I don't see what possible enhancement that picture has that would make it more appealing in a picture then in real life? If you mean the dial being black, that is just one aspect of the watch depending on the lighting, I don't see how that would be misleading, except if someone did not know that the dial displayed different shades? :(

[CajunMike]

I have been drooling over photographs of the PO 2208.50 with the orange bezel and I had an AD get one in for me to look at...I have to say, I was really dissapointed. The black dial almost appears greyish and I expected more dramatic color, but I wasn't impressed..It photographs well though!

The dial is matte black, so it does appear grey in bright light. This is however a feature of more "tool" oriented watches as it reduces glare and increases dial visibility. For example, Rolex used to use matte black dials on the Sub before they caved to the jewelry people and made it gloss black(Just one mans opinion folks, don't get the bats out, in fact, Omega seems to be doing the same thing with the new black SMP).

Its the same with the Speedmaster Pro. The face is matte black and does appear greyish under different light. It unfortunately has a tendency to underwhelm in jewelery store lighting. However, wear it for a few days and you are mesmerized by it. It really is a fantastic watch. I understand that first impressions are key and it will be hard for you to overcome this, but I would give it a second look.

[mthwatch]

The dial is matte black, so it does appear grey in bright light. This is however a feature of more "tool" oriented watches as it reduces glare and increases dial visibility. For example, Rolex used to use matte black dials on the Sub before they caved to the jewelry people and made it gloss black(Just one mans opinion folks, don't get the bats out, in fact, Omega seems to be doing the same thing with the new black SMP).

Its the same with the Speedmaster Pro. The face is matte black and does appear greyish under different light. It unfortunately has a tendency to underwhelm in jewelery store lighting. However, wear it for a few days and you are mesmerized by it. It really is a fantastic watch. I understand that first impressions are key and it will be hard for you to overcome this, but I would give it a second look.

Very well put. I think that's what initially turned me off a bit on the PO. It was something to do with the way smudges accumulate on the sapphire coupled with harsh lighting. I just wasn't into it. Then I tried it on at another, much better lit AD at night. I was hooked. Its really a quite beautiful black 95% of the time. Only occasionally does it appear to be a dark shade of gray.

[I Like Watches]

http://i43.tinypic.com/15psl8y.jpg

[mthwatch]

http://i43.tinypic.com/15psl8y.jpg

Haha! Very subtle reminder to buy what you like!

[Jim3]

The change in apparent color of the face is a feature of the AR coating on both sides of the crystal.

[mthwatch]

The change in apparent color of the face is a feature of the AR coating on both sides of the crystal.

You really think so? I'm pretty sure that its the matte finish...the same effect is visible in paper printing with gloss and matte finished paper...blacks appear different.

[Jim3]

You really think so? I'm pretty sure that its the matte finish...the same effect is visible in paper printing with gloss and matte finished paper...blacks appear different.

I am not challenging that the finish of the face doesn't have an effect. It is just that crystals with double AR coating do play tricks with colors.

[leicashot]

I am not challenging that the finish of the face doesn't have an effect. It is just that crystals with double AR coating do play tricks with colors.

Omega are very smart. While there are those wanting to remove the AR coating, it plays an important part by mixing with the greyish colour of the dial and it turns blueish-black in certain situations. This watch looks best under black light, sunlight or very low light where the orange bezel glows! These attached photos are under natural flat light which shows it's real colours without any colour cast.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/IMG_0437.jpg

Under normal showroom incandesent lighting, the watch is at its worst admitedly, but get this baby in sunlight and WOW. Also, throw on a divestraps kevlar and the dial becomes deeper black...something about that strap on this watch gets people's attention. Many watch store assistants have noticed it and been complimenting how well it suits the watch!

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/IMG_0439.jpg

What do you think?

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/IMG_0436.jpg

[ttomczak]

As always, to each his own!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eticket/S6300017.jpg

[SpringDriven]

I love all the pictures, they are awesome! But I worry they have been edited or enhanced in some way... :P

[paduncan]

I love all the pictures, they are awesome! But I worry they have been edited or enhanced in some way... :P

I hope that made you feel better. :roll:

[leicashot]

I love all the pictures, they are awesome! But I worry they have been edited or enhanced in some way... :P

What you are worrying about is actually the benefit of owning (not looking at in a store) this watch. It changes in varying light and almost always looks amazing. I am a photographer and can guarantee that my images are as clean and unedited as they can get. I deliberatly took them under flast natural light without any colour cast to affect the image. i agree though that the watch is poorest to look at under incandecent lighting.

Here are a few of my images (not manipulated) under different lighting conditions, and it looks even better in person.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/L1010298.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN1056.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN0916.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN0638.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN0646.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN1051.jpg

This is what I mean by how it looks in low light when the polished hands catch the little light available...the grey dial was a very smart idea, one I did not understand fully prior to purchasing and owning.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN1074.jpg

If I bought again, I'd buy the all black and change the bezel to orange as I am not a fan of the orange numbers...

but match this to a Kevlar from DIVESTRAPS and it's sets the dial on fire!

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/IMG_0436.jpg

[sunster]

welcome back leicashot...hope your move went well

[paduncan]

What you are worrying about is actually the benefit of owning (not looking at in a store) this watch. It changes in varying light and almost always looks amazing. I am a photographer and can guarantee that my images are as clean and unedited as they can get. I deliberatly took them under flast natural light without any colour cast to affect the image. i agree though that the watch is poorest to look at under incandecent lighting.

Here are a few of my images (not manipulated) under different lighting conditions, and it looks even better in person.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/L1010298.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN1056.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN0916.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN0638.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN0646.jpg

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN1051.jpg

This is what I mean by how it looks in low light when the polished hands catch the little light available...the grey dial was a very smart idea, one I did not understand fully prior to purchasing and owning.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/DSCN1074.jpg

If I bought again, I'd buy the all black and change the bezel to orange as I am not a fan of the orange numbers...

but match this to a Kevlar from DIVESTRAPS and it's sets the dial on fire!

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/IMG_0436.jpg

Very nice pictures, no doubt, and the watch looks awesome in them. However, pictures do not necessarily show how the watch looks in real life, as you still picked various settings, lighting conditions, etc.

The store that I made my decision re: not getting the PO because it looked rather uninspiring was very conducive to making watches look fantastic (A. Hartmann and Son, Galway, Ireland)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_OrBWvsTPXy0/SOlWIoOCZnI/AAAAAAAAC58/9hH0G8YW9ow/s800/PA040493.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OrBWvsTPXy0/SOlWH3PWhPI/AAAAAAAAC50/9khhSfOfPEU/s800/PA040492.JPG



This is why I selected a plain SS Datejust Rolex instead because it just "popped" and continues to pop in all lighting conditions (even in my amateur photo below).

http://peterduncan.net/Datejust.JPG

[SpringDriven]

Sorry, just not seeing it Duncan, it appears this is a personal preference. My perception of your statements tell me that you feel tricked by lighting and that it never compares to real life. Fair enough, I don't think I could type out the right words to counter or change your perception of how instore lighting ruins a product for you. Shiny things sell, but nothing prevents anyone from looking at a product under normal lighting before buying.

And yes, my statement did make me feel better, thanks for putting yourself out there. :)

[paduncan]

Sorry, just not seeing it Duncan, it appears this is a personal preference. My perception of your statements tell me that you feel tricked by lighting and that it never compares to real life. Fair enough, I don't think I could type out the right words to counter or change your perception of how instore lighting ruins a product for you. Shiny things sell, but nothing prevents anyone from looking at a product under normal lighting before buying.

And yes, my statement did make me feel better, thanks for putting yourself out there. :)

Real life? I think entering a store, jewelry or otherwise is part of "real life." lol. Or does real life mean any lighting condition that favors the look of a PO and nothing else counts? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? :-d

The beautiful photo shoots with the carefully chosen angles, etc. to me are farther away from real life than jewelry store lighting. I think even that wrist shot above was taken in a light box, correct? How often do we go through the day viewing our watches with shimmering lighting, freshly charged lume, etc. in situations that are contrived and posed? How often do we experience viewing a PO in "neutral lighting?" Just about every lighting situation we are in all day long is far from neutral whether it be indoor lighting, or glaring sunshine. Having pure, neutral lighting happens rarely. Frankly, I would prefer a watch that looks great in ALL lighting, not just neutral lighting.

Just be sure you ignore your Omega PO if you happen to enter jewelry stores - the lighting is purposely setup to make your watch look terrible compared to other watches, and compared to how it will look in "real life," and you wouldn't want to get depressed or anything. Of course, crappy lighting that makes watches look bad helps the jewelry store sell more watches you know. :roll:

[SpringDriven]

Real life? I think entering a store, jewelry or otherwise is part of "real life." lol. Or does real life mean any lighting condition that favors the look of a PO and nothing else counts? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? :-d

The beautiful photo shoots with the carefully chosen angles, etc. to me are farther away from real life than jewelry store lighting. I think even that wrist shot above was taken in a light box, correct? How often do we go through the day viewing our watches with shimmering lighting, freshly charged lume, etc. in situations that are contrived and posed? How often do we experience viewing a PO in "neutral lighting?" Just about every lighting situation we are in all day long is far from neutral whether it be indoor lighting, or glaring sunshine. Having pure, neutral lighting happens rarely. Frankly, I would prefer a watch that looks great in ALL lighting, not just neutral lighting.

Just be sure you ignore your Omega PO if you happen to enter jewelry stores - the lighting is purposely setup to make your watch look terrible compared to other watches, and compared to how it will look in "real life," and you wouldn't want to get depressed or anything. Of course, crappy lighting that makes watches look bad helps the jewelry store sell more watches you know. :roll:


Ok, I concede, and I used real life because you mentioned it. I will plainly state that your choice of the Rolex does nothing for me. It does not pop in your picture, or any other way I have ever looked at one as yours.

Mine and other POs I have seen look great in all lighting conditions, on the 1st Page I Like Watches has great photos of the Orange PO on a sunny day, so this is just a personal preference, not some trick on lighting, but your point does stick, has merit that I cannot argue with, hence my concession to your point that for you, the PO only looks good when arranged, managed and controlled, and that your Rolex looks great to you all the time. I will point out for others that this is personal and to each their own, if you are on the fence, look at the watch with outside lighting, dim lighting etc and make you own decision. The PO does have different personalities in different lights, it was not meant to be a dress watch anyway as shiny as it is, it just is good design (or luck) that it looks good for those that like it! :D (Or maybe Omega tried too hard if that is the side of the fence you sit on).

[lucretius]

I have been drooling over photographs of the PO 2208.50 with the orange bezel and I had an AD get one in for me to look at...I have to say, I was really dissapointed. The black dial almost appears greyish and I expected more dramatic color, but I wasn't impressed..It photographs well though!

Now, they also had a Black Bezel PO with the Orange numbers, but it was the Chrono model...now that was a fantastic looking watch! :-pThe chrono price is out of my comfort level though!
Oh well...I guess I can remove the 2208.50 off my grail list.:roll:

I prefer the matte black dial on a diver's watch and find the dial color of the PO just perfect. I also have the gloss black dial on an Aqua Terra and that is great for a dressier watch. Diver's watches with gloss black dials and/or gold or two-tone cases appear cheesy to me! But to each his own.

[lucretius]

Real life? I think entering a store, jewelry or otherwise is part of "real life." lol. Or does real life mean any lighting condition that favors the look of a PO and nothing else counts? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? :-d

:roll:

The halogen or tungsten lamps often used in jewelry store display cases have poor color rendering abilities, although they can really make diamonds sparkle.

[leicashot]

welcome back leicashot...hope your move went well

Thanks Sunster, still on holidays and move sometime in Jan, thanks for the rememberance...was a little naughty on holidays and couldn't resist a good deal on my new daily beater...

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq132/leicashot/IMG_0400.jpg