Waltham pocket wach repair help.

[Raul]

Hi, to all the forum members.

I’m asking for help on the repair of a Waltham ladies pocket watch
s/n 9129505 witch dates it from around 1899.

I got the watch in excellent condition but not running. I’ve disassembled and cleaned the movement. It wasn’t running because the main spring was `set` and locked lick a small pyramid wean at rest on the work bench, binding the spring In the barrel. It’s now running nicely.

I’ve never repaired or handled American pocket watches, there very rarely seen in may part of the world.

May problem is as fallows. With the movement removed from the case (winding button stays attached to the case) using a small screw driver inserted in the winding shaft hole, when inserted for the first 2 mm it will set the time, if pouched in further it will act on the works and wine the watch.
With the movement in the watch case there is some back and forth movement in the winding button, but I can only wind the watch and not set the time. At first glance it locks like the square part of the shaft is to long and is pressing in the works, only winding the watch.
The keyless works have a small lever for adjustments, but moving it has
no effect in the winding button.
Can someone help me, on haw this system works? (Haw do you normally wind and set these watches with the winding button). And watt is I doing wrong?

Thank you very much for any information.

Best regards

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[runess]

I'm no expert, since i neither see so many american watches...

BUT i have read some about them, and there is something about there keylessworks, that is different than in european, say swiss, watches...

Damn! i thought i had a link or something, but i don't...O|

If i remeber right it's something about that one need to assemble the keyless works, so that it is the "second" position, the hand setting position.

But again, my memory could fail...:think:

So my advice is to try and nudge it about, at some point you will get the picture of how it works!

Best regards Rune B

[runess]

I can see you posted on the TZ watchmaking and repair forum...

I think you should listen to the replies there... mine was quite off! :think: :roll: :-D

Best regards Rune B

[Raul]

Hi, to all the forum members.
Thank you for the replay Rune B.

I’ve taken some advice, and disassembled the winding button, one of Maybasic rules in watchmaking is if I’m not shore of watt I’m doing stop, and try to read ask or take a long pause to see haw things are don before advancing. It’s been a very successful approach until now.

Now down to the watch, as you can see in the photos you can adjust the position of the winding button bay the part that’s screwed in the case. I’m guessing that there was a spring that kept the stem pulled in the winding position, that because is hilly improbable that with no spring, the winding button will be always in the hand setting position and you have to pouch it In to wind the watch.
Any insight on this mater would be appreciated.

Thank you

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Regards