Project Kingston: Reference images

[Yao]

Disclosure: These images are for reference only. This watch project is in no way shape or form connected to or sanctioned by EON Productions or Rolex S.A.

http://www.mkiiwatches.com/images/Kingston/Thunder_bath.JPG



http://www.mkiiwatches.com/images/Kingston/Gold_club.jpg

http://www.mkiiwatches.com/images/Kingston/Gold_refinery.JPG

http://www.mkiiwatches.com/images/Kingston/No_boat.jpg


http://www.mkiiwatches.com/images/Kingston/Russia_embassy.jpg

[NWP627]

Thanks Bill
N

[Thieuster]

The second pic is remarkable: the 'Bond' strap (what was the name before? regimental strap?) is too small, as noticed on an other part of this forum. I think that the people who made that movie didn't bother about 18, 20 or 22 mm...

Without wanting to open a can of worms: Mr Yao, did you consider a strap or bracelet with the watch? On the other hand, perhaps this pic shows that you could consider any kind of 'shoes' under the Kingston-watch!
Menno

[sschum]

The strap in the last two pictures look different. :think: Can someone who is more tech-savy than me (i.e., everyone) get a close-up of the watch on those pictures (especially the second-to-last)? :thanks

[Yao]

was a brown leather strap. It seems the famous "Bond" strap was introduced in the second movie.

[SOS]

The second pic is remarkable: the 'Bond' strap (what was the name before? regimental strap?) is too small, as noticed on an other part of this forum. I think that the people who made that movie didn't bother about 18, 20 or 22 mm...

Without wanting to open a can of worms: Mr Yao, did you consider a strap or bracelet with the watch? On the other hand, perhaps this pic shows that you could consider any kind of 'shoes' under the Kingston-watch!
Menno


The Nato came directly from the Directors watch, he looked at the brown strap and thought a navy issue would look more authentic for a naval officer so he took the strap off his watch and put it on the Rolex, right before the scene started filming.

[tallguy]

These are just too cool not to add to this thread.b-)

http://robertmaron.com/popup_image.php?type=D&id=17848&title=ROLEX%20SUBMARINER%206538%20STEEL&area=C&page=1

[Galpo]

These are just too cool not to add to this thread.b-)

http://robertmaron.com/popup_image.php?type=D&id=17848&title=ROLEX%20SUBMARINER%206538%20STEEL&area=C&page=1

Very important reference shots, thank you,tallguy.
They seem to be silver hands, not gilt.
I must say it looks right to me (silver I mean).
The only gilt hand I know to look good are brushed,
like in vintage Seiko's.
The gloss ones always look a little over-to-the-bling-side.

[tallguy]

These are just too cool not to add to this thread.b-)

http://robertmaron.com/popup_image.php?type=D&id=17848&title=ROLEX%20SUBMARINER%206538%20STEEL&area=C&page=1

Originally posted by timbo in the project kingston thread:-!

[Reintitan]

IMO, this post from the VRF shows the definitive version of the 6538. I say that because it has all of the elements associated with the archetypal vintage big crown Sub: glossy dial with gilt lettering except for the depth rating which is silver; gilt hands with the big meatball on the seconds hand; red triangle on the bezel insert; and minute track on the dial.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...age/1230653644 (http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1230653644)

Note: Please don't post the pictures separately here. They're not mine and they are copyrighted by the owner of this watch. So just link to the post on VRF.

[Yao]

Thanks Gerard for the images. I saved them. The insert shown is what I will use as a reference for the red triangle insert.

IMO, this post from the VRF shows the definitive version of the 6538. I say that because it has all of the elements associated with the archetypal vintage big crown Sub: glossy dial with gilt lettering except for the depth rating which is silver; gilt hands with the big meatball on the seconds hand; red triangle on the bezel insert; and minute track on the dial.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20759...age/1230653644 (http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1230653644)

Note: Please don't post the pictures separately here. They're not mine and they are copyrighted by the owner of this watch. So just link to the post on VRF.

[tallguy]

Everybody seen this cool site? Nice photos!

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0018_1.shtml

All shoulderless Rolex Submariners should have black gloss dials and are known as the James Bond due to the sporting of one by Mr. Connery in Goldfinger. It looks like he is wearing the military issue A/6538: Nato strap, fixed bars , large 8mm crown but no minute markers first five minutes on the bezel insert. For me the only true James Bond Rolex Submariner is the new ref. 6538 model.

[k7lro]

Everybody seen this cool site? Nice photos!

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0018_1.shtml

All shoulderless Rolex Submariners should have black gloss dials and are known as the James Bond due to the sporting of one by Mr. Connery in Goldfinger. It looks like he is wearing the military issue A/6538: Nato strap, fixed bars , large 8mm crown but no minute markers first five minutes on the bezel insert. For me the only true James Bond Rolex Submariner is the new ref. 6538 model.



Images from the article:

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/images/6538/6538.jpg

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/images/6538/6538_1.jpghttp://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/images/6538/6538_2.jpg

[bompi]

Simply great ...
Very exciting project as well !

[k7lro]

The white minute hand looks out of place. I wonder if that was as the result of having the watch serviced?

[Thieuster]

Hello All,


There's a shop in Maastricht selling vintage watches. The first time I visited them must been 20 odd years ago. (I think that these visits started my queste for classic watches).
Anyway, they have an online store too. And they state that they are selling Bond-like (Dr No) watches.

I don't know the rules about posting the address of commercial websites :-s, but if you google on 'antique jewelry maastricht', it's the third from above. Go to their site (also in English) and have a look.

(As someone stated on an other watch forum: "It's seems that Maastricht has become the centre of watch-gravity in Holland' ).

And if I broke a forum rule: please remove this posting.

Menno

[cpotters]

I thought I'd share this image I just came across. I have never seen this image of a 6538 before, but this definitely puts a little extra "beef" into the working image of this watch.

And, no, this is not an advertisement: just a working guy wearing the tools of his trade.

Maybe we should call it a "Yaeger-Bond" (click on the color image of Col. Yaeger and you'll get a large format, hi-resolution image of him with that 6538 - looks like a gilt dial with minute markers on the dial)

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/chuck-yeagerss-rolexthe-right-stuff.html

[J.B. Books]

I thought I'd share this image I just came across. I have never seen this image of a 6538 before, but this definitely puts a little extra "beef" into the working image of this watch.

And, no, this is not an advertisement: just a working guy wearing the tools of his trade.

Maybe we should call it a "Yaeger-Bond" (click on the color image of Col. Yaeger and you'll get a large format, hi-resolution image of him with that 6538 - looks like a gilt dial with minute markers on the dial)

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/chuck-yeagerss-rolexthe-right-stuff.html


Definitely a cool find. Thanks for adding it.

[T Bone]

Hello All,


There's a shop in Maastricht selling vintage watches. The first time I visited them must been 20 odd years ago. (I think that these visits started my queste for classic watches).
Anyway, they have an online store too. And they state that they are selling Bond-like (Dr No) watches.

I don't know the rules about posting the address of commercial websites :-s, but if you google on 'antique jewelry maastricht', it's the third from above. Go to their site (also in English) and have a look.

(As someone stated on an other watch forum: "It's seems that Maastricht has become the centre of watch-gravity in Holland' ).

And if I broke a forum rule: please remove this posting.

Menno

Could you at least post the name of the shop? Finding it so far has eluded me (Google searches will vary with time).

[timbo]

I found a very interesting milsub version of the 6538, with an incredible story:

http://images.antiquorum.com/204/medium/160.jpg (http://catalog.antiquorum.com/catalog.html?action=load&lotid=160&auctionid=204)

There are more questions than answers about the A/6538. The few examples that have appeared all share the same unusual characteristics. Not one of them has a serial number; all have the previously unknown model number 6540 stamped inside the case back and then carefully crossed out. All bear the manufacturing stamp for the third quarter of 1957; all have most unusual bezels and Explorer-style 3/6/9 dials. These were the first Rolex military Submariners; they were issued only to the elite Special Boat Squadron of the Royal Marines (the inspiration for the US Navy SEALS). The case has rudimentary fixed bars; the caseback has full military markings and is further marked by many years of a nylon G10 strap being in the same position. It seems that in 1961 the British Ministry of Defence ordered that all dials using radium be withdrawn and replaced by dials using tritium. The present watch retains its original dial due to the fact that it was lost on the beach. The story is interesting: a beachcomber with a metal detector found it buried beneath a foot or more of sand on his local beach. Unbelievably, the Oyster case had protected the watch from the action of the tide for over 40 years, keeping the movement dry and clean. The original glass was completely opaque as the sand being washed over it with the tides had acted like fine sandpaper. However, the glass required only the lightest of polishes before it sparkled like new.

[Marc7300]

Name of the watch store is "Steiner"

Could you at least post the name of the shop? Finding it so far has eluded me (Google searches will vary with time).

[NWP627]

That is indeed an interesting story, thank you.
N

[Duarte]

That is indeed an interesting story, thank you.
N

x 2 :-! Very interesting. Inspirational even...

http://mysite.verizon.net/dmendonc/images/DSCN4082.JPGhttp://images.antiquorum.com/204/medium/160.jpg

[Thieuster]

I've had a lot of PMs regarding the name of the shop. I honestly wasn't sure one is allowed to post the name of a watch selling shop on the forum. That's why I had to use a cryptic discription.

I'm glad that Marc -we live in the same town!- decided that it's time to name the shop!

Menno

[Thieuster]

There are interesting pictures of a 1962 5508 on this website: http://forum.atgvintagewatches.com/showthread.php?t=610

It's a commercial site, so no further comments here.

Menno

[NWP627]

There are interesting pictures of a 1962 5508 on this website: http://forum.atgvintagewatches.com/showthread.php?t=610

It's a commercial site, so no further comments here.

Menno

That watch is beautiful. Bill, will our Kingston have the minute ticks on the bezel up to 15?
N

[Yao]

in about a week or so depending on how much work I get done over the weekend. But one bezel will not have the 15 minute ticks and one bezel option will have it.

That watch is beautiful. Bill, will our Kingston have the minute ticks on the bezel up to 15?
N

[tallguy]

in about a week or so depending on how much work I get done over the weekend. But one bezel will not have the 15 minute ticks and one bezel option will have it.

The worst thing about this d*#% watch is going to be the decisions!!!!!!o|o|o|:-p

[JDS (Ohio)]

Same problem really for ALL of Bill's offerings - making up your mind.

[ntr]

The worst thing about this d*#% watch is going to be the decisions!!!!!!o|o|o|:-p

I do agree... I wonder whether it is reasonnable to order several configurations o|:-s

[Thieuster]

There are interesting pictures of a 1962 5508 on this website: http://forum.atgvintagewatches.com/showthread.php?t=610

It's a commercial site, so no further comments here.

Menno

And here's an other one:
# 310124471177http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/globalAssets/rtCurve.gifon the Bay. Pictures are really large. They give a good impression of various details, I think,

Menno

[Darkman]

Here's a great look at the original - can zoom it up super-close, too:

http://www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159532327

[iFunky]

some other reference pict

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o5/2wsxcde3/NP2.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o5/2wsxcde3/NP1.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o5/2wsxcde3/6538/6538.jpg

Credit SteveP on VRF


and DrStrong's one :-x
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/jeff944/mes%20montres/bc01.jpg

[Cowbiker]

Just found this pic, pretty clear gator/croc texture

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Dr-No-james-bond-m03.jpg

[Marc7300]

Just stumbled across this pic on the web... Notice it's an early no crown guard Tudor!

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff156/marc7300/200604041017200_Dscn0531.jpg

With a big Brevet signed crown...
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff156/marc7300/200604041017200_Dscn0755.jpg

Cheers Marc

ps: pics courtesy of www.bubblebackclub.com (http://www.bubblebackclub.com)

[Cowbiker]

...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o5/2wsxcde3/NP1.jpg



I do love that tropic crystal, really compliments the vintage look of the piece.

[Marc7300]

Yes... and imagine this watch with "Kingston" on the dial!
Can't wait....lol

Cheers Marc

[Cowbiker]

...and no domed acrylic crystal. b-)An option I'd happily spring for.

[Tetraflop]

Makes waiting not easier....


http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9862/elijahkl.jpg

________
Dietmar

[Marc7300]

Elijah Craig is my favorite whiskey too... The name also reminds me of his brother Daniel :-)

[tallguy]

here's a nice gilt dial and hands: http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25794

[lisaray]

Its an nice images ...the same problems they r offering in the bills...I need a update for that..

[sunster]

This one is courtesy of Rolex website
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk3/drsunster/MK%20II/1953TheFirstSubmariner.jpg

[66Cooper]

Interesting picture. Not the same model but is it from the same year? That second hand is cool. A tiny lume dot at the very end. Useful

[TheDude]

FYI, the place to see images is the Vintage Rolex Forum. They have an entire dial reference section. It's a documentation project of sorts.


This is the section for Subs.

http://vintagerolexforum.info/vrf/subs.html

[HappyJack]

This is a friend's 6536 - inherited from his father, who bought it new. He says he wears it as a travel watch because it's not flashy and doesn't draw attention, yet is smart enough for business meetings...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_M_ygWKcHRmQ/Sa-jPiK45WI/AAAAAAAAAec/_XoiF9d7J1s/s512/DSC_0253.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_M_ygWKcHRmQ/Sa-jJleC87I/AAAAAAAAAeU/C5a_6iS8SR0/s512/DSC_0254.JPG

[66Cooper]

What a watch! Can only imagine the kind of traveling that could be done with a watch like that.

So, bored at work and been thinking a lot about all of this and decided to go back through the first 4 Bonds and take screens of all and any shots with watches in them. Just finished Dr. No and From Russia. Took almost 150 of Dr. No alone. Funny thing is I am not really sure what to do with them all now:-)

[Dent99]

That is in stunning condition! Unlike your friend I wouldn't be able to bring myself to wear such a valuable watch.

[HappyJack]

Well, he had no idea what it was worth - just that it was an old Rolex and had been his father's. Apparently it originally went to his brother, so he traded with his brother and swapped the Rolex for a new Tag Heuer and some (perhaps a few hundred) cash!

He reckons he'd like to get a Panerai. I told him he could probably sell it and get a couple of Panerai..!

Funnily enough, though I completed the Kingston survey and was invited to sign up, I didn't take up the plank-owner offer, becuase I couldn't really see the attraction of an old ND Rolex. Having seen this one, I really can, now.

[Dent99]

Well, he had no idea what it was worth - just that it was an old Rolex and had been his father's. Apparently it originally went to his brother, so he traded with his brother and swapped the Rolex for a new Tag Heuer and some (perhaps a few hundred) cash!

He reckons he'd like to get a Panerai. I told him he could probably sell it and get a couple of Panerai..!

Funnily enough, though I completed the Kingston survey and was invited to sign up, I didn't take up the plank-owner offer, becuase I couldn't really see the attraction of an old ND Rolex. Having seen this one, I really can, now.

I'd trade a new Tag for a $30,000 vintage Rolex any day of the weeK!