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marc_wl
February 26th, 2006, 20:26
In the past weeks I accumulated a dozen of vintage French simple watches found a the regular flea market in Lyon , France (3 to 10 Euros). It was more as a stock for practise of watchmaking. Most of the watches are in wreck condition and the balance wheel pivots are usually broken, in particular on non-protected one.

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They are popular watches from the 50's and early 60's I guess. I acquired also some lots of parts clearly of the same period.

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Yesterday, I choose one of these watches for a restoration project : Erosa, Ancre 17 rubis, Antichoc...May be one of these obscure French brands of that time. The case is round (34 mm diameter, 36.7 including the crown, 41 mm to the lugs) and quite slim (8.5 mm), with a stainless screwed case back without any indications or numbers.

Let's see what is inside : Apparently a 23.3 mm caliber, a standard size of that time. On the main plate I recognized the "MHS" mark and a "P62" under the balance wheel. MHS (Maison Horlogère de Savoie) if I am not wrong, located in Annemasse, France next to Geneva. P62...let's check our parts, would be funny to have something related to...and that's the case!! A nice little boxe with some parts, screws, balance wheels, springs, clicks, etc...:-p

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OK, this is the first time I can service a watch with parts available at home!

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I could change the ratchet screw which a bit damaged and I should find a stem bar that broke upon dismount.

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Once dismounted, straight to the bath of benzine :

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After carefully wach and drying, I made a detailled inspection :

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The train wheels

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A nicely equilibrated balance wheel.

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The mainspring.


After a small inventory of my parts, I found a compatible stem :

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That fit properly to the caliber. I could re-use the original crown that I could unscrew from the broken stem.

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After remounting the stem mecanism, the antichoc jewels are reassembled, their spring armed, and properly oiled (the oild drop should be injected to the lower stone by capillarity and a thin pin)

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The cannon pinion is installed after the remount of the central wheel :

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Then the complete train wheel is remounted :

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and the caliber completed starts spontaneously after 1 turn and half :-p

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A nice little caliber with a good finish. I leave it overnight functionning to set the oils.

The last step is to returm the caliber to the case and the dial. In my part stock, I noticed some hands that would fit to the MHS P62 :

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"Golden yellow with red arrow cental second hand"...Humm... would be a nice little adaptation instead of the straight golden original one :-p. The slim case will not leave this hand without touching the acrylic crystal (which I change for a new 297 mm one from my local retailer)

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I should curve it a bit before the final casing.

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Now the final result :

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And with my 3 other restorations of the same kind :

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The Relliac is fitted with a French Cupillard (Villers-le-Lac, Haut-Doubt, France) 233 calibre and the Golday with an Alfred Schild (Gruen, Switzerland) 1187/94.

Ray MacDonald
February 27th, 2006, 02:52
Thank you for your very detailed post with the steps in your restoration. :-!

Hartmut Richter
February 27th, 2006, 11:52
Very nice! What connection is there between MHS and Lorsa? I have almost the same movement in the P75 version with a similar logo - shield with a cross on it - on the mainplate, which according to my list of manufacturers marks as well as the Ranfft database is the Lorsa logo.

Hartmut Richter

marc_wl
February 27th, 2006, 15:29
Very nice! What connection is there between MHS and Lorsa? I have almost the same movement in the P75 version with a similar logo - shield with a cross on it - on the mainplate, which according to my list of manufacturers marks as well as the Ranfft database is the Lorsa logo.

Hartmut Richter

Unfortunately, I have very little historical elements regarding MHS (sometime also "HS") and Lorsa. Both include the "Horlogerie de Savoie" in their initials or acronyms. May be the same company that evolved in different successive names?

I would like to know too.

Kind regards

fkane
March 1st, 2006, 16:50
What a GREAT post!:-! I am inspired to begin learning to do what you have done. Thank you for sharing this. That strap is a perfect pick and really adds to the vintage look.


Kane Waltrop