any help with these appreciated

[hctaw]

I picked these up a couple of years back...both are not working....the stopwatch has no apparent name on it and I was able to include a photo of the movement-----the RENOWN pocket watch is without a crown so unfortunately I cannot open(properly that is)....I realize I must get a better camera! I have a couple of digitals that have served me well,however,I believe I require one that is better able to take a close- up(lens anyway)...I had to take these through a manifying glass as otherwise,the normal camera close-up,would be extremely blurry....apologies!!...thanks for any help

[Ray MacDonald]

Sorry can't help much on these. As we are looking at the stopwatch movement, it looks relatively pedestrian. :-s
The Renown looks to be post 1920 but I can't say much more.
We do have some stopwatch collectors here who might be able to help.

[eldarinn]

It appears, like Ray suggested, that the Renown is post 1920 but it is pre WW2 for sure as well. The other one appears to be a WW2 era stop watch and the arrow on the back suggests a marking belonging to a British military unit of some sort.