My new vintages watchs acquisitions

[gaetan8888]

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Here is my new vintages watchs acquisitions. I can not afford high qualities vintage watch, so I did buy those one, they are fair to good quality watchs.

I've found, in a flea market, a lot of watchs, most are Swiss made. Some work wen shaken a bit.

Any of wrist watchs there who worth to be repair ?

I include photos.

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Gaetan

[gaetan8888]

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Here is some close up photos of 3 of them.

The two automatic one look like to be the same nice swiss movement but I do not see who made those movements.

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Gaetan

[Hartmut Richter]

Any of wrist watchs there who worth to be repair ?

In a word: No. At least not when looking at it from a purely financial point of view. Almost all of those are common enought that you will be putting more cash in than you would return on them when selling them. This particularly applies to ladies watches since there is practically no collector's market for them.

If, on the other hand, you simply want to get them running again for your own use, it depends on how much you are willing to spend. As a guideline, in order to be worth "fixing", a vintage watch should:

1. be running anyway, even if badly - i.e. nothing broken to the extent that parts need to be replaced

2. be in a good state - no major dings and scratches

3. have a high enough quality movement - i.e. no one-jewel pin pallet movement. An in-house movement is an advantage but not a must.

If Point 1. isn't satisfied and you need parts, it all depends on whether the movement is recent enough for your watchmaker to be able to get them. I have Felsa 4007 with a bust date friction spring and my watchmaker couldn't get a replacement. Making one from scratch for that sort of movement would be far too expensive to be worth it.

Other than that, close-up shots of each individual watch with movement would help in making an assessment. The Cyma may well be worth servicing.

Hartmut Richter

[gaetan8888]

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Did you look at the close up photos in my second post ?

The Dason 30 jewels automatic whatch movement could be nice, it run few minute wen I shake it, maby it is not winded enough.

I would like to use the watch with the best automatic movement in that lot of watchs.

Here is two close up photos of the Cyma watch.

Thank

Bye

Gaetan

[Hartmut Richter]

Hello

Did you look at the close up photos in my second post ?

The Dason 30 jewels automatic whatch movement could be nice, it run few minute wen I shake it, maby it is not winded enough.

I would like to use the watch with the best automatic movement in that lot of watchs.

Here is two close up photos of the Cyma watch.

Thank

Bye

Gaetan

The two automatics have closely related Felsa movements, one with date, the other without. I would expect some numbers under the balance wheel as well as an "F" (for Felsa) in a sort of clover leaf shield. The numbers will tell you what calibre it is. Something along the lines of the Cal. 710 (no date) and 712 (with date):

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?00&ranfft&0&2uswk&Felsa_712

...but there are also some others in that range.

The third watch has an Adolf Schild movement, something in the AS 1220 family:

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?00&ranfft&0&2uswk&AS_1220

The Cyma is definitely the pick of the bunch - providing it works OK. It has an in-house movement, something like a Ca. 063 with a bridge layout that deviates slightly from that shown in Ranfft:

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?00&ranfft&0&2uswk&Cyma_063

It is also a form watch with a form movement which makes it a little more unusual, especially when compared with modern watches. That ought to be worth servicing.

Hartmut Richter

[gaetan8888]

Hello

Here is some other close up photos of those watchs in the lot.

Thank a lot

Bye

Gaetan

[Hartmut Richter]

Hello

Here is some other close up photos of those watchs in the lot.

Thank a lot

Bye

Gaetan

Can't identify the two in the left hand picture offhand, I'm afraid. The form movement has many almost identical ones by different makers. The other one looks vaguely like an Adolf Schild AS 1456:

http://www.christophlorenz.de/watch/movements/a/as/as_1456.php

The second is definitely by Adolf Schild, a Cal. 1158 or something from that family:

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?00&ranfft&0&2uswk&AS_1158

The next looks like something from the ETA 1080 family:

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?00&ranfft&0&2uswk&ETA_1080

...but beware - several other makers had similar movements in their range. Look for a stamp unde rthe balance wheel to confirm the ID. The last one looks vaguely like a FHF Cal. 30:

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?00&ranfft&0&2uswk&FHF_30

...but the geartrain bridge seems a little fat. Again, other makers had something similar in their range, e.g. A. Michel:

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?00&ranfft&0&2uswk&AM_270

Hope that helps,

Hartmut Richter