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Ray MacDonald
February 12th, 2006, 17:03
I’m going to repost this in case the “old” forum cannot be restored completely.

Rule #1: 3 things influence the value of a vintage watch: condition, condition and condition. It’s very difficult to assess condition from a photo, hence any online value estimate is a crapshoot.


Rule #2: If you have a solid gold case, add $500 US to the price assessment. If it's encrusted in diamonds and is platinum, it doesn't much matter about the watch part anyway – the scrap value will be higher unless it’s say a Rolex, Patek or Vacheron.


Rule #3: The watch is worth what a buyer will pay for it. There are price lists published, but they assume the watch has been serviced and is in running condition. Any buyer will have to deduct at least $100 US from the price list value if the watch has not been recently serviced. A watch seller will not give you more than 50% of the posted price in any case. Often eBay is the best way to get an idea of what your watch is worth.


Rule #4: Your antique watch is worth far less than you think. They are not rare, even if they are old. For instance Elgin made over 50 MILLION movements. They were built to last and be repaired so a lot of them are still around in various conditions of course. The average price for an 80 year old pocket watch is around $150 US. Of course how do you put a price on something your grandfather gave you when you were 7?


Rule #5. When it comes to wristwatches, men’s are worth more than ladies’ models. Women are not as interested in old mechanical things, and the ladies’ watches are often really tiny - that’s out of fashion today. Besides, the men’s watches of the 30s and 40s are quite small and can serve as unisex pieces. So ladies, go ahead and wear Dad’s old Bulova if you want.


Rule #6: Watches stink as an investment. I bought an 1883 keywind Hampden in 1978 for about $100 US. It's value today? Maybe $175 US. I'm not going to retire on those types of returns. It's a great watch though.

Rule #7: When in doubt, refer to Rule #1.

Ray MacDonald
June 6th, 2007, 14:49
Please read over this sticky post before asking for a valuation of your vintage or antique watch.
First of all the standard disclaimer. JohnF and I never offer a valuation for sale of any watch, although we can tell you if it's worth restoring from an economic point of view. (It usually is not and the primary reason to restore any antique watch is because it's a family heirloom.)
You might think that two relatively intelligent guys - one of whom is an economist and amateur watch repairperson - might be able to evaluate watches over the Internet but alas we simply cannot.
There are a number of reasons:
(1) The absolutely most important factor in assigning value to a watch is condition. And unless the watch is in horrible shape, we simply cannot tell its condition from a photo. If it's really bad you don't need us to evaluate it anyway.
(2) Watches often have gold cases or diamonds on the dial which makes them more valuable as jewelry than as a timepiece. We are not gemologists or gold bugs so we can't help you there
(3) There are books out there which give a guideline as to prices but they assume the watch is serviced and in running condition. They are no help if a watch is broken or hasn't been cleaned in decades.
(4) Ultimately the price of any vintage watch is determined by what the buyer will pay. You have only to follow a few eBay auctions to see this truth in action.
The effect of each of the above reasons appears to be cumulative, and as a result even the best guess we could give you on value is going to be out by 50% or more. What good is that to you?
Our advice before asking us (or any website) about valuation is:
(1) Follow eBay auctions for similar pieces to yours, taking into account condition as the #1 factor.
(2) Go to a bricks and mortar facility who has a watchmaker you can trust and get that person's opinion.
(3) Read our (other) sticky "7 Rules (blah blah blah)" for more common sense info and details.
Best of all just enjoy your old stuff, don't worry about value. Likely your grandfather didn't anyway.