Annoucing the registration for the OKEAH "Final Edition" Project >>>

[JRMTactical]

Hi JRMTactical,

I respect your words but all that I can say is Iīm really satisfied with this amazing project.

Iīm not worried at all (about overruns on production) .

Thanks for the comments.

I'm not in on the buy, I really don't like design of the Okeah (from any era), simply because I'm not attracted to its looks. I'm happy for all involved who are getting a watch of excellent quality, I just kind of figured that Volmax wasn't going to completely quit at the 300. I figure they'll offer 50 to 100 more (with enough minor differences so as to not infringe on your contractual agreement. Of course, they'll be numbered and given a 'special' designation (as well as a LARGE PRICE).

[El Monitor]

I'm not in on the buy, I really don't like design of the Okeah (from any era), simply because I'm not attracted to its looks. I'm happy for all involved who are getting a watch of excellent quality, I just kind of figured that Volmax wasn't going to completely quit at the 300. I figure they'll offer 50 to 100 more (with enough minor differences so as to not infringe on your contractual agreement. Of course, they'll be numbered and given a 'special' designation (as well as a LARGE PRICE).

Ok, thatīs your opinion and I respect, but Volmax donīt think the same. I trust them.
Volmax are actually developing a new way to work through their new collections, IMHO really nice.
The last Poljot 3133 movements are being used to their last Sturmy and Sturmy Strela models, and most possible is that Volmax keep a little amount of those movements to launch any special edition in the future (who knows?). I donīt think they have interest to make 25-50-100 old Okeah as ours, itīs not their actual vision of marketing or way to look for the future.

Donīt forget Volmax is a swiss company who make their new collections as "Swiss made" watches. Their brand Buran began to use swiss movements for a minor part of watches, but actually, a big part of Volmax watches are using swiss movements under the "Swiss made" denomination. Theyīre moving away the russian watch industry as you can see, although little by little. For example, you can take a look at the new Aviator Vintage collection (Bristol, Douglas or Airacobra), powered by swiss ETA 2895-2, ETA 2824 movements or swiss Ronda 6003B Quartz movements. Also the Aviator "Professional", using ETA-7750. Even, 95% of Buran watches are "Swiis made". Poljot 3105 or 3133 movements, are being deleted little by little in the new Volmax collections, and only the Sturmanskie brand is using Poljot movements. In fact, we had a short meeting with Volmax in Basel, to work with another future project by HdR (using Poljot 3133 movements) and the Volmax external manager tolds me "itīs very difficult to find 3133 movements, and really hard to work with them today". In other words: 80% no chance.
Then... Why Volmax could be thinking to make another little portion of old Okeah watches? This make no sense, IMHO.
(Even when Volmax respected my decision about not make another little portion of Okeah Final Edition watches).

I guess your thinking is the thinking of a forumer who have a opinion about the russian watch industry way to work (overruns on production), but IMHO itīs not the thinking of the Volmax Company. But of course, I respect your opinion.

In any case... Who knows? I just can say I trust Vomax 100%.

Now, I prefer enjoy rather than speculating (mode positive ON).


NEWS: Due to deleted bookings, today there are two more forumers in:

1. Mister Mike (WUS forum).
2. Andrea0212 (Orologiando).

Congrats!!

Kind regards!

[JRMTactical]

Ok, thatīs your opinion and I respect, but Volmax donīt think the same. I trust them.
Volmax are actually developing a new way to work through their new collections, IMHO really nice.
The last Poljot 3133 movements are being used to their last Sturmy and Sturmy Strela models, and most possible is that Volmax keep a little amount of those movements to launch any special edition in the future (who knows?). I donīt think they have interest to make 25-50-100 old Okeah as ours, itīs not their actual vision of marketing or way to look for the future.

Donīt forget Volmax is a swiss company who make their new collections as "Swiss made" watches. Their brand Buran began to use swiss movements for a minor part of watches, but actually, a big part of Volmax watches are using swiss movements under the "Swiss made" denomination. Theyīre moving away the russian watch industry as you can see, although little by little. For example, you can take a look at the new Aviator Vintage collection (Bristol, Douglas or Airacobra), powered by swiss ETA 2895-2, ETA 2824 movements or swiss Ronda 6003B Quartz movements. Also the Aviator "Professional", using ETA-7750. Even, 95% of Buran watches are "Swiis made". Poljot 3105 or 3133 movements, are being deleted little by little in the new Volmax collections, and only the Sturmanskie brand is using Poljot movements. In fact, we had a short meeting with Volmax in Basel, to work with another future project by HdR (using Poljot 3133 movements) and the Volmax external manager tolds me "itīs very difficult to find 3133 movements, and really hard to work with them today". In other words: 80% no chance.
Then... Why Volmax could be thinking to make another little portion of old Okeah watches? This make no sense, IMHO.
(Even when Volmax respected my decision about not make another little portion of Okeah Final Edition watches).

I guess your thinking is the thinking of a forumer who have a opinion about the russian watch industry way to work (overruns on production), but IMHO itīs not the thinking of the Volmax Company. But of course, I respect your opinion.

In any case... Who knows? I just can say I trust Vomax 100%.

Now, I prefer enjoy rather than speculating (mode positive ON).


NEWS: Due to deleted bookings, today there are two more forumers in:

1. Mister Mike (WUS forum).
2. Andrea0212 (Orologiando).

Congrats!!

Kind regards!

Again, I don't have a dog in this hunt so it doesn't make any difference to me at all. I'm glad you trust Volmax, and I hope it's well placed. If they've promised you in writing that they won't make any more Okeah's, then so be it. Again, I'm not trying to start ANY trouble or argument...I just know what a business SHOULD do to make money. If they don't make money, they don't stay in business. The Okeah's don't interest me at all (old or new), I'm just expressing an opinion and like anything else....you're welcome to take it or leave it. My feelings aren't hurt one way or another.

[El Monitor]

Again, I don't have a dog in this hunt so it doesn't make any difference to me at all. I'm glad you trust Volmax, and I hope it's well placed. If they've promised you in writing that they won't make any more Okeah's, then so be it. Again, I'm not trying to start ANY trouble or argument...I just know what a business SHOULD do to make money. If they don't make money, they don't stay in business. The Okeah's don't interest me at all (old or new), I'm just expressing an opinion and like anything else....you're welcome to take it or leave it. My feelings aren't hurt one way or another.

Then... Whatīs the problem?

I respect your opinion (itīs not a question to take it or leave it, just respect) and I guess Iīm not saying nothing bad to you or to anyone.
I`m trying to explain how the things was done, and how the things could be done in the future. First part is the reality, second part is just mi humble opinion.

Have a nice weekend.

[Strela]

I think there has been some sour grapes by those who did not or could not take part in the project, and I think that's a bit unfair. I can understand their anguish, but that is the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

I think the project is amazing, and I think you guys did an excellent job in making it a multinational, muti-forum experience. Fair warning was given for those who wished to take part. BTW for those interested, HdR is very readable in English using the various translation bots.

[avers]

I think there has been some sour grapes by those who did not or could not take part in the project, and I thinks a bit unfair. I can understand their anguish, but that is the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

I think the project is amazing, and I think you guys did an excellent job in making it a multinational, muti-forum experience. Fair warning was given for those who wished to take part. BTW for those interested, HdR is very readable in English using the various translation bots.

Agreed.

Given the fact that project is organized by watch enthusiasts - it's amazing how it unfolds! There are always things that could have been done better in the retrospect, buy over all it's great!

[Vyshnee]

I think there has been some sour grapes by those who did not or could not take part in the project...

Yes, and making attempts at persuading the Okeah Team to change the project concept, criticizing their decisions, and offering negative running commentary is in many ways disrespectful to the people who have put in hundreds of hours out of passion for the non-profit Okeah Final Edition. This project has been administered extremely fairly and with very unusual generosity. And the Okeah Team at HdR is doing all this for the kind benefit of others.

A special thanks to Carlos for being so diplomatic and patient while describing how the project unfolded for the benefit of those who have not followed the threads at HdR or WUS or read the comments posted by Volmax. And for offering his first-hand analysis and insight on the future of 3133 projects. It's such a rare opportunity and an incredible learning experience to have an inside view from a project lead.

One week left for payments! Let's celebrate our Okeah / Hirsch strap selections along with the reservists who have the lucky opportunity to join the 300!

[nht]

Our decision has already been defined at the beginning of the project.

And yes, "Okeah Final Edition" will be 300 watches.

Sorry, but there's no turning back.

[JRMTactical]

Then... Whatīs the problem?

I respect your opinion (itīs not a question to take it or leave it, just respect) and I guess Iīm not saying nothing bad to you or to anyone.
I`m trying to explain how the things was done, and how the things could be done in the future. First part is the reality, second part is just mi humble opinion.

Have a nice weekend.

No problem at all... I was simply commenting on the possibility that they (Volmax?) would try to capitalize on the obvious popularity of this project, and they DID ask about increasing the number of watches to be built. The very first post I ever made in this thread was a simple speculation to 'wildpack' (member) about contracts and the possibility of 'overruns'. I just know how businesses think, and if you read back to my original post that was all that I made comment about. i said I wouldn't be surprised at all if they offered a similar watch after this project OR offer to increase the number of watches made. They want to make money, that is what businesses do. I haven't got any issue's, gripes or anything else...NONE of my posts have said anything of the sort, I just simply inserted an observation/prediction. I am happy for everybody who wants and is getting one of these watches. I, however, don't want one..never did, and as I have stated I don't care for them, that's just a personal thing. I've not been on the original list, the reserve list or 'reserve reservist's list'. LOL! My likes and tastes are in different areas of Russian/Soviet watches. I've never found the Okeah's attractive in any way, shape, form or fashion. If I had EVER bought one, it would have been as an investment to hold on to and capitalize on the rarity later on. Then I would've put the money towards another Strela or Moscow Classic...

[chirs1211]

WUS Okeah / Hirsch Strap Selection List

WUS Okeah Members please note your strap selections here for official HdR registration:

001 - 156/300 Vyshnee: 1 x Hevea 40458830-2-20 L Grey
002 - 156/300 Vyshnee: 1 x Pure 40538880-2-20 L Blue
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004
005

Hi can i add my selection here?


251/300 chirs1211: 1 x Liberty 10900210-2-20 L Brown

Cheers
Chris