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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEyeSniper View Post
    My Amphibia has a very sluggish date roll over.

    See MattBrace answer below
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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEyeSniper View Post
    My Amphibia has a very sluggish date roll over. are there any "simple" repairs that address this, is it indicative of a worn/broken part, or something that needs adjustment/cleaning/oiling?

    I want to crack it open and attempt to regulate it anyways, figure I might as well address the date rollover if I can.

    Basically it takes from about midnight to 3am to fully hit the next date. Meanwhile my blue "submarine" dial clacks instantly into place a few minutes after midnight (It's woken me up while sleeping with the watch on) and I'd love to get that back. I believe it used to firmly click into place and at some point it turned sluggish.
    More than likely you have a broken jumper arm, this is what snaps the date wheel along, without it the date wheel will still change but it will take much longer.
    a pretty simple repair and parts are plentiful.

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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Quote Originally Posted by MattBrace View Post
    More than likely you have a broken jumper arm
    Note: the arm may be silver or gold (brass). They are the same part and completely interchangeable.


    Attention !! it is not advised to perform a 'quick date change' on a Vostok by moving the hands past 12 then back to 9 then back again past 12. Yes, this is fast and easy but it may break this jumper spring / arm or damage the cam pin.

    On page 1 I gave instructions to perform this but it was not known at the time of the damage this can cause. Since then there have been some reports of damage. I now do not recommend it. However, it appears that many owners use this method occasionally and have not experienced problems.
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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEyeSniper View Post
    My Amphibia has a very sluggish date roll over. are there any "simple" repairs that address this, is it indicative of a worn/broken part, or something that needs adjustment/cleaning/oiling?

    I want to crack it open and attempt to regulate it anyways, figure I might as well address the date rollover if I can.

    Basically it takes from about midnight to 3am to fully hit the next date. Meanwhile my blue "submarine" dial clacks instantly into place a few minutes after midnight (It's woken me up while sleeping with the watch on) and I'd love to get that back. I believe it used to firmly click into place and at some point it turned sluggish.
    Unfortunately, the date complication is located at the bottom side (dial side) of the watch so you would at least have to take it out of its case and remove the hands and dial to be able to have a look at it. Other than that I'm afraid I have no other help to offer you. I'd be very interested to learn what's causing it though, so please keep us posted. Thanks!

    EDIT:
    Oops, didn't see there were already some excellent replies! Thanks!
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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Just bought a amphibia 710 scuba dude. Also ordered a black shark bezel, bezel insert, and clear case-back. Going to order custom second hand as well soon from dr. Seikostein. May have someone else install the hands, but ill attempt to matte the case. Pictures to come!! Thanks for the great info-center.


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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

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    UPDATE:

    Hands: Igor IV has added more hands
    - this is the new chart

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    Hands:

    IgorIV (WUS) : Ukraine


    Made to Fit:


    - Amphibia : Modern and Vintage
    - Komandirskie : Modern and Vintage
    - all Vostok watches with 24xx (Modern) and 22xx (Vintage) movements

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    Hour & Minute: ( H & M )

    - fit ALL modern / ALL vintage: Amphibia and Komandirskie

    - stainless steel or brass

    - ready to install: no modifications necessary

    - all hands are sold with Lume paint applied
    -- it is a mid-grade lume / better than standard Vostok lume

    - you can request hands without lume if you want to apply your own

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    Seconds: ( S )

    *S hand size are different for: Modern and Vintage


    - Modern: 24xx movement: 0.17 mm
    - Vintage: 22xx movement: 0.20 mm


    -- these are common sizes for Quartz watches: most Quartz S hands should fit but must be no longer than the length of a Vostok S hand. Shorther S hands are no problem.
    --- S hands are measured from the mounting hole to the tip
    (see the data in the 'Hands' section of the Guide)


    ** Quartz S hands must have a ‘pipe’ or ‘barrel’ versus a simple hole to mount.
    - the S hand pinion onto which the S hand is mounted is recessed into the Cannon Pinion.
    -- this is the part on which the M hand is mounted.


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    Lume:


    All hands are sold with Lume paint applied unless you request hands without lume


    - shipped from Ukraine

    Note: Ukranian Post service is often faster and more reliable than the Russian Post,
    especially for addresses beyond Europe

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    How To: Order


    - List of all hands:

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...N68Aw/viewform

    - same hands as the chart I have given but any changes Igor makes will appear first on his list


    - Contact Igor: WUS account

    http://forums.watchuseek.com/member.php?u=266266


    Give Igor:

    - Part #
    - Quanitity
    - Do you want them Lumed or not Lumed

    After you send your order, Igor will contact you with the total price.
    He will give you instructions for payment.

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    - if you purchase hands form Igor, please post photos and a review

    - if you have a problem with the hands, do not hesitate to contact Igor and discuss your concerns.
    He is willing to listen and willing to improve the designs


    Post your photos and review:

    1. 'Votok Mods'

    Vostok Mod - the Revival


    2. Igor's Thread: 'Custom Dials and Hands'

    Custom dials and hands.

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    Notes:

    - hands may be painted with model type paint and a paint thinner / solvent

    !!! Be very careful when installing, applying lume or painting the hands.
    The metal is not as strong as original hands and they may bend.
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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

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    2416 Automatic : Parts Diagrams

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    - diagrams supplied by: Meranom

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    Notes:

    - all 24xx types use the same basic parts

    - 2409 / 2415 do not have date / calendar mechanism


    - all parts are interchangeable between all 24xx models except:

    -- Automatic models have an extra 'Auto. Winding Bridge' with special parts not found on Manual winding models
    -- Cannon Pinion and Seconds Pinion of models without calendar cannot be installed in models with calendar
    -- Mainspring: Automatic models have a different type
    -- models with Day / Night wheel have a few unique parts for this mechanism


    Need more clearance for hands on a 2409?
    - install 2414 or 2416 Cannon and S pinions: they are taller = more clearance from dial face

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    How To: Order 24xx Parts


    - MERANOM will allow you to order parts for the movements

    Send a message with the following information:

    - you must specify the Part Numbers as shown in the diagrams
    - you must specify quantity


    If you require parts for non - 2416: ex. 2409 / 2415 :

    - you can use the same part numbers for the other models because most parts are interchangeable (except as noted above)

    Remember: you must specify Part Numbers and Quantities
    - they will not accept a description of the parts

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    Notes:

    - part supplies may be limited and may be available only when the factory produces the movements

    - you may also consider purchasing an entire movement either new or used to provide spare parts
    -- MERANOM and several ebay sellers sell new movements and used Vostok watches can be purchased through many ebay sellers

    Some parts are sold separately already through MERANOM, Zenitar, asap31, favinov and sometimes other ebay sellers:

    Parts such as:

    - Reversing Wheels: see diagram part: гЮ6.379.002 ( чн-514мy-11a )

    - Mainspring: seller will specify Auto. or Manual (2416 or 2409/2414)
    -- Auto. see diagram part: гЮ6.323.039 ( чн-514м-y18 )


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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Matt_Bored_O, thanks for your posts about IgorIV's hands and the parts diagrams! Very interesting and useful!
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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    Quote Originally Posted by FernandoFuenzalida View Post
    ..... the Guide is great!!

    Do you plan on doing something similar with the Komandiskie??

    Yes. When time permits.
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    Re: --- A Guide: Buying / Modifying / Repairing VOSTOK AMPHIBIA ---

    This may be a stupid question but I've searched and couldn't find the answer. I seem to recall reading about this somewhere but just can't spot it...

    So my 960SE has the top of the crown sort of coated blue. I can't tell if it's a protective film and didn't want to start scratching at it and making a mess if I was wrong. Can anyone offer advice? Thanks.

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