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  1. Sodiac's Avatar

    Sodiac said:

    Re: What's the history of the 2416b Vostok movement? ...

    I think I've seen tear-downs, but it would be interesting to know more about the history of this movement.

    Sodiac
    Too many watches, only two wrists and never enough time...
     
  2. cmeisenzahl said:

    What's the history of the 2416b Vostok movement? ...

    Does anyone know who designed this movement and roughly when? Was it a Soviet copy of a Swiss design? Or a from-scratch work?

    Any notable similarities to or differences from ETA's offerings such as the 2824?

    I would love to see a review and tear-down of one someday. Morbid curiosity I guess.

    Thanks!
    Chris
     
  3. CCCP's Avatar

    CCCP said:

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    There is a tear down in the Article section: Vostok 2416b Service notes
     
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    pmwas said:

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    2416B is an automatic version of a 24xx movement. developed first by Raketa (the handwound version - most likely) produced in enormous quantaties by Vostok since the '70. The automatic version was introduced in the eighties AFAIK. The base movement is a Soviet designed movement (not a straight copy) - a simple construction with indirectly driven second hand. the automatic winder is a Vostok construction, with a ball bearing rotor, two roller freewheels (elgin or Gyromatic style reversers) and a directional clutch that separates the winder from the ratchet wheel during hand-winding. Apart from the weird construction where a small piece of brass keeps the roller freewheels in their place (normally they should be between two plate IMO) it is a very good, well designed automatic movement. Most problems people have with it (ant there are plenty) come not from bad design, but from Vostok's dreadful lubrication. It is not a copy of anything, at least not a straight copy. Some technical similarities to other movements are obvious, but it's entirely a Soviet construction.
     
  5. cmeisenzahl said:

    Re: What's the history of the 2416b Vostok movement? ...

    Quote Originally Posted by CCCP View Post
    There is a tear down in the Article section: Vostok 2416b Service notes
    Excellent, thanks!
     
  6. cmeisenzahl said:

    Re: What's the history of the 2416b Vostok movement? ...

    Great info, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by pmwas View Post
    2416B is an automatic version of a 24xx movement. developed first by Raketa (the handwound version - most likely) produced in enormous quantaties by Vostok since the '70. The automatic version was introduced in the eighties AFAIK. The base movement is a Soviet designed movement (not a straight copy) - a simple construction with indirectly driven second hand. the automatic winder is a Vostok construction, with a ball bearing rotor, two roller freewheels (elgin or Gyromatic style reversers) and a directional clutch that separates the winder from the ratchet wheel during hand-winding. Apart from the weird construction where a small piece of brass keeps the roller freewheels in their place (normally they should be between two plate IMO) it is a very good, well designed automatic movement. Most problems people have with it (ant there are plenty) come not from bad design, but from Vostok's dreadful lubrication. It is not a copy of anything, at least not a straight copy. Some technical similarities to other movements are obvious, but it's entirely a Soviet construction.
     

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