Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

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    Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

    I just inherited a gold pocket watch.
    At first I couldnít find any marks other that K18 (Which I assume relates to the gold)

    Then I realized it had a hinged back and there was a outer case.
    Here is the info on the outside of the inner cover.
    Echappement A Ancre
    15 Rubis
    Rouen 1896
    Diplome díhonneur

    What I found interesting (may be nothing) but on the inside of the watch, where the gears are is the following engraving:
    Carlos De EreŮo
    Bilbao
    N.20829

    After a little googling:
    Bilbao is some place in Spain
    The name Carlos De Ereno pops up everywhere as some contractor in Puerto Rico in the late 1800's. Then I found a book that listed him (Well that name) as the Mayor of Puerto Rico in 1887.

    Any ideas or places to turn to.

    Thanks
    Mike

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    Re: Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

    Quote Originally Posted by abernut View Post
    Rouen 1896
    Diplome díhonneur
    This indicates that the watchmaker won that award at the Roen exhibition in 1896 for something. That would make this watch later than that (assuming it's still in its original case, which isn't always true).

    A watchmaker could well have also been the mayor, but I know nothing about Spanish watchmaking.

    Photos would be useful...


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    Re: Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

    I am at work right now but will post picture later.
    It seems really nice. Most of the pocket watches I've been seeing just have a plain white face. This one has Gold flowers going around the outside of the face and then another circle of gold flowers in the middle of the face.

    Mike

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    Re: Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

    "Echappement A Ancre" was a relatively new technology in the 19th century.
    Its translation is "deadbeat escapement" in English

    more here: Escapement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So I'm guessing that you have a fine piece of artistry and technology in your hands as it received an honorary award.
    An image would be welcome.

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    Re: Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Rose View Post
    So I'm guessing that you have a fine piece of artistry and technology in your hands as it received an honorary award.
    An image would be welcome.
    No, it means the watchmaker received an award. It doesn't mean that this movement received an award. Watchmakers put their best movements, often specially made into the exhibitions. What comes out of their workshops for sale is often priced to a market.


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    Re: Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

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    Re: Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

    I pulled out the magnifying glass and was amazed at how much stuff is engraved inside the cover that I originally did not see.
    The engravings are EXTREMELY small and there is no way my camera would pick it up so I just drew a pic of what is engraved and the approximate location.

    A lot of these are up beneath the lip of the back cover. I have no idea how someone got in there to engrave this.


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    Re: Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

    The engravings are merely marks by watchmakers who serviced the watch at some time or another. The movement is high class but I can't identify it. It is late 19th or early 20th century but we knew that from the gold medal already. A nice heirloom.

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: Identifying 1896 Gold Pocket watch

    I am sure the case was made with 18K solid gold. In old days, they just stamped 18K. Now a days, 18K and 750 and some kind of logo. The dial is so amazing.
    Last edited by neonaing; August 28th, 2012 at 18:57.

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