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    Re: K.Serkisoff & Co Ottoman Pocket Watch

    Yes K.Serkisoff & co were exclusive suppliers for the Turkish National Railways since 1880. The Ottoman Empire had signed an agreement with K.Serkisoff & Co in 1880. Since then when one gets retired from the railways it is a tradition to give the person a Serkisoff railway watch as a present. They stopped this tradition few years ago. This year Turkish National Railways celebrating their 150th anniversary. They ordered 1100 Serkisof watches for their staff.
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    Hi...I did a little bit more of research. They ordered the watches from China! They do not make them in Russia anymore. I am enclosing the photos of the Serkisoff watch for the Turkish National Railway. Brand new one costs about $ 42.-

    http://www.gittigidiyor.com/main/urun.php?id=11715272
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    Re: K.Serkisoff & Co railway watch

    Great thread! many thanks for the postings.
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    Re: K.Serkisoff & Co railway watch

    Thank you very much for your interest.:)
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    Re: K.Serkisoff & Co railway watch

    Quote Originally Posted by ikarus2007 View Post
    Hi...I did a little bit more of research. They ordered the watches from China! They do not make them in Russia anymore. I am enclosing the photos of the Serkisoff watch for the Turkish National Railway. Brand new one costs about $ 42.-

    http://www.gittigidiyor.com/main/urun.php?id=11715272
    I much prefer the Molnija version

    Centre and subsidiary seconds together on the same dial is ridiculous!

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    Re: K.Serkisoff & Co Ottoman Pocket Watch

    I have a watch that is supposed to be Turkish that I have no idea what it realy is, a watchmaker told me the case was Turkish but the movement was Swiss possibly Zenith.
    Who then is BL? Check the photo's out it is quite a mystery.
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    Re: K.Serkisoff & Co Ottoman Pocket Watch

    The movement is Swiss, ca. 1900. I haven't seen the BL logo before, but Zenith was called Billodes before it was Zenith. Maybe other Members have seen the logo and could comment.

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    Re: K.Serkisoff & Co Ottoman Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald View Post
    The movement is Swiss, ca. 1900. I haven't seen the BL logo before, but Zenith was called Billodes before it was Zenith. Maybe other Members have seen the logo and could comment.
    The movement is most certainly not by Zenith, but it is likely to be Swiss. The closest match I can find offhand is something by Unitas, e.g. Cal. 83:

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...uswk&Unitas_83

    But there were similar movements made by Cortebert and by Junghans, the latter being German so the movement does not have to be Swiss. A maker's mark under the balance wheel would help clear things up but often, these hide dial-side on those things.

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    Re: K.Serkisoff & Co Ottoman Pocket Watch

    I don't see any writing in Turkish on the case of the watch. Most of the vintage pocket watches have the the watch maker's name in it. I don't see anything written in Ottoman language or Turkish language. I am going to do a little research on it.
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    Re: K.Serkisoff & Co railway watch

    Quote Originally Posted by ikarus2007 View Post
    Hi...I did a little bit more of research. They ordered the watches from China! They do not make them in Russia anymore. I am enclosing the photos of the Serkisoff watch for the Turkish National Railway. Brand new one costs about $ 42.-

    http://www.gittigidiyor.com/main/urun.php?id=11715272
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