Question about authenticity, with pictures

[mattjw]

Could you tell me if these watches are authentic? How do you tell?

First, ostensibly a Movado: Auctiva Image Hosting

Second, ostensibly a "Baume": Auctiva Image Hosting

Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks.

[Tomcat1960]

Some more images may help - movement, case detail etc.

[bracky1]

Some more images may help - movement, case detail etc.

He has provided more pictures. The one he has linked to for each watch is part of a set.

[Roland Ranfft]

Hi there,

I've never seen this movement, but it is obviously a manual-wind counterpart of this automatic:
bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Movado 531

Regards, Roland Ranfft

[Hartmut Richter]

The Baume seems to have a Fontainemelon (FHF) calibre, possily a Cal. 74 with the mainspring and geartrain bridges merged:

bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: FHF 745

I have something like that in a Ducati (if I remember right) - looks "Germanicised"! (I.e. Glashütte style 3/4 plate installed)

Hartmut Richter

[eldarinn]

The Movado is cal 365 (11.25 Ligne DSS) and looks legit to me overall although I don't appreciate the clean up on the dial.
The Baume looks legit but keeps in mind it has nothing to do with the famous BAUME & MERCIER. It's a simple ebauche FHF as Hartmund suggested.

[ec633]

It appears to be genuine looking at both the case & the movement incl the stamped case back. It's hard to tell if the case is solid gold. Look for the gold mark if any usually stamped - carat by percentage. 12 karat = 50 : 50 gold & metal content . 18 karat = 18 parts of gold & 6 parts of other metal. Hope this is helpful. Solid gold is 24 karat.