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    Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    Hi all.
    I have found a Sicura watch which I wore throughout my school days in the 70's. It is a mechanical digital with the hours and date in windows and the minutes on a rotating wheel. Sorry no photo at the moment. I seem to remember the bracelet broke and I put it away. I found it this weekend. It doesn't seem to want to go. As I cannot find a Sicura forum I thought I would ask here if its worth repairing/servicing or is it now just junk?
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    Re: Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    The problem should be solved by any good watchmaker because most of the "digital" watches have been equipped with ETA (AS, Otero) movements. Should be no problem to get it repaired.

    Here´s an Otero which powered a Stowa Digital:



    Pic by courtesy of Stowa

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    Re: Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    Thanks Mike.
    It's got a bit of sentimental value to it and was quite cool in the 70's. I wont take the back off to compair with your picture, I'll take it to my local watch repairer and see what he can do with it.
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    Re: Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyC
    Hi all.
    I have found a Sicura watch which I wore throughout my school days in the 70's. It is a mechanical digital with the hours and date in windows and the minutes on a rotating wheel. Sorry no photo at the moment. I seem to remember the bracelet broke and I put it away. I found it this weekend. It doesn't seem to want to go. As I cannot find a Sicura forum I thought I would ask here if its worth repairing/servicing or is it now just junk?
    Thanks for any information.
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    Andy.
    If it still works and just needs a clean, it should definitely be worth servicing. Digital watches are not that common and the more common ones (vintage from the seventies) aren't all in good state. I would rate it as moderately collectable, given that it is digital. As such, it will almost certainly have a discontinued movement so that getting a new one is not possible. If it has a PUW 1561D (German movement), it should be slightly more collectable still - German ebauches are no longer made!

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    Re: Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter
    If it still works and just needs a clean, it should definitely be worth servicing. Digital watches are not that common and the more common ones (vintage from the seventies) aren't all in good state. I would rate it as moderately collectable, given that it is digital. As such, it will almost certainly have a discontinued movement so that getting a new one is not possible. If it has a PUW 1561D (German movement), it should be slightly more collectable still - German ebauches are no longer made!

    Hartmut Richter
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    1. Ruhla Digi73 with VEB Ruhla cal. 24-34 pin-lever, made in East Germany
    2. Nelson Digital with Baumgartner 17 jewel pin-lever, assembled in Israel from Swiss parts

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    Re: Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    A quick update. Took it to my local watch repairer who will take a look, clean and service. If its not repairable there will be no charge. He mentioned when he had opened the back that it has pins not jewels.
    Now I have a photo.



    Thanks for the feedback.
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    Re: Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyC
    A quick update. Took it to my local watch repairer who will take a look, clean and service. If its not repairable there will be no charge. He mentioned when he had opened the back that it has pins not jewels.
    Probably this one: Baumgartner BFG582 (also used by Sorna)

    Which makes it not much different from my Nelson. The 24-hour format makes the Sicura a bit rare, though.

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    Re: Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    Thanks Chascomm.
    I'm looking forward to getting it back Friday.
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    Re: Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    Hi Andy,

    Chascomm is most probably right. The watch belonging to the shown movement has a very similar dial layout:
    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...sau&1058972505

    Maybe, Zeno has still some complete watches or movements on stock.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Re: Are Sicura watches classed as vintage?

    Thanks for all the information. I got the watch back today. It only needed a good clean with no repairs. It is a BFG pin pallet movement.
    Although not a classic it saw me through my teens in school so as far as I am concerned is certainly worth keeping.
    I will now display it in one of the static compartments of my watch winder.

    Thanks again.
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