quick planet ocean bracelet parts question

[drunken monkey]

maybe not so quick.

the simple version:
is the geometry of the bracelet parts for the 22mm PO bracelet the same as the 20mm PO bracelet with the only difference being the width?

the long version:
if I were to get a pair of 20mm end links, then a whole lot of extra links meant for the 22mm PO bracelet (am I correct in saying that they are 20mm?) and the clasp for the 22mm bracelet (again, 20mm width, correct?), could I make myself a non-tapering 20mm bracelet for the 42mm Planet Ocean?

[drunken monkey]

right, a little more detail might be in order.

I have small wrists; 6 inch circumference on a good day and as such, I have always had problems getting bracelets to fit properly.
Usually I have to take out all extension links to get a fit and even then, bracelets don't seem to be designed to fit properly with all links taken out and most of this is to do with the location of the clasp.

With all links taken out, it looks like the clasp is located centrally if you shaped the bracelet to a round.



Flatten it slightly to make it closer to a wrist shape and you'll see that it shifts to the (from our pov) right.



Realistically, on my wrist, the clasp sits far more to the right like this



What this does, is make the watch-head have a tendency to roll over towards to the top of my wrist (i.e away from body) that I have to keep correcting, as the clasp seeks to sit itself in the middle of my wrist. This has been the same for every watch on a bracelet I have had.
So, what I need, is to have a bracelet that has one side longer than the other with all links taken out so that the clasp sits in the middle of my wrist.

With the Planet Ocean bracelet, it means I need three (or three and a half link) links on one side and five links on the other (ignoring the links connecting clasp to bracelet) for a perfect fit.
That is where I remembered someone asking about using 22mm PO links on a 20mm PO bracelet.
A little lateral thinking got me to think about the possibility of making an entire bracelet out of 20mm wide links (i.e 22mm Bracelet extension links).
Except a more pressing thought came to me this morning and what is now the first and now only question that needs to be answered:


Do the extension links for the 22mm Bracelet (that measure 20mm) fit onto the 20mm wide end link?

[bjornid]

I remember the thread you are referring to and think the conclusion was it's not possible to use 20 mm links from the big size PO to build a none tapering bracelet for the 42 mm PO. The bracelet tapers all the way and you can't replace the none removable links. I just measured my PO 45 mm, and the last none removable link is 21 mm. I guess yours will be 19 mm. Then you will attach a new 20 mm link and the whole thing will look a bit odd. And you have already removed all removable links, so I don't think you can replace the remaining links.

Are the pictures above of your PO? It doesn't look like a PO clasp.

[drunken monkey]

actually, now that you mention it, another equally important question came to mind:
(I don't actually have any bracelet as I got mine on rubber partly because of this fit issue)

Are the end links even removable?
In photos of it, I see what looks like it could be a pin/sleeve fitting hole where the bracelet fits onto the end link. I always assumed that it was a pin/sleeve and that it is removable.

To clarify, unlike the other guy who wanted to extend his 42mm PO bracelet with 45mm bracelet links, I was thinking if I could make an entire bracelet using only the 20mm (45mm PO) wide links for the bracelet and fix them to the 42mm PO end links and use the 45mm PO's clasp.
I guess what I really need, is the measurement of the centre piece of the 42mm PO end link and the measurement of the centrepiece of the 45mm extension link.
If both are indeed 20mm wide then as long as the centre sections are the same, it should fit, right?


And no, the photos are not of a PO or a PO bracelet. I think it's a copy of an Aqua Terra bracelet but on a different clasp.
I took those just to illustrate the trouble I have with getting a bracelet to fit.

[bjornid]

The 45 mm PO center link is pretty close to 10 mm. I would guess that the end-link is removable. There is a pin that you may remove, but I haven't tried that.

So you will have a bracelet where all links have a pin, similar to the Seiko sarb's. You will loose some of the elegance of the PO. But I do understand why you want to do this. I would also prefer a none tapering PO, like the SMPs. One of the reasons why I chose the 45 mm PO was that I found the 42 mm clasp a bit small.

[drunken monkey]

The 45 mm PO center link is pretty close to 10 mm.

thank you, now I just need someone with a 42mm PO to measure their centre section of end link.

So you will have a bracelet where all links have a pin, similar to the Seiko sarb's. You will loose some of the elegance of the PO. But I do understand why you want to do this. I would also prefer a none tapering PO, like the SMPs. One of the reasons why I chose the 45 mm PO was that I found the 42 mm clasp a bit small.

bold - bingo!
having worn the PO on the rubber, I find that as long as it is on tight, you end up not feeling the watch's presence no matter how heavy it is. It is when the watch has room to move about when you feel it. The PO bracelet with all links removed would most likely still be loose enough for it to move around so I really do need to change the position of the clasp to make it more under my wrist and to have one less link than is possible in a normal bracelet.

My gut from looking at photos of it all makes me think I can get a good fit if I have three links on one side and four (or maybe five or a half) on the other.