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    Smaller diameter spring-bars/speed pins bad for lug holes?

    I just bought a really nice Taikonaut strap with speed pins, those integrated spring-bars that have the small, convenient lever for easy strap installation and removal. These cannot be removed, so I cannot use my OEM spring bars.

    While I love the convenience of the speed pins, the diameter of the actual pin heads (correct term?) are less than the OEM spring-bars'. Therefore, when installed, the speed pins have a little bit of room to move around inside the lug holes.

    My question is: Will this damage the lug holes, or somehow disfigure them, over time? Or do you think the lug holes are more resistant to damage than that? I've always wondered how well lug holes have held up on vintage watches that have seen twenty, thirty, forty years of use....

    Any insight greatly appreciated! I really don't want to damage my beloved Planet Ocean.


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    Re: Smaller diameter spring-bars/speed pins bad for lug holes?

    IIRC, if you use the incorrect diameter spring bars and in particular, smaller ones, it will knock around within the hole, wear away the metal and eventually, even a correct diameter springbar will no longer fit properly.

    I remember this because there was a post sometime ago about someone doing the same (smaller diameter spring bars in a larger lug hole) on a vintage Seiko and it chewed up the lug holes pretty badly.

    Probably best to err on the side of caution and use the proper diameter spring bars.

    Oh, and in addition, if the "speed pins" are what I think you are describing, those can be removed. You just need to clip off the "changing lever" and the pin slides out so you can use a proper springbar. I did this to a strap I bought for my wife which came with the "speed pins" but I removed them to use the factory springbars.
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    Re: Smaller diameter spring-bars/speed pins bad for lug holes?

    Thanks, guys. That makes sense. That's really unfortunate as I like the convenience the speed pins provide. Will have to figure something out; not sure I want to cut them out.


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    Re: Smaller diameter spring-bars/speed pins bad for lug holes?

    Speaking from personal experience with Omega watches, I prefer to stick with Omega branded items, regardless of how much they hurt the pocketbook. I've tried some other brands for bracelets and straps, but found that Omega makes the best fit for their watches.

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    Re: Smaller diameter spring-bars/speed pins bad for lug holes?

    I understand what you're saying. I agree that OEM parts are the nicest, and fit perfectly, but I kind of see straps as separate entities that have their own character. I usually stick to a few brands that I've had good experiences with and whose design language most complements my specific watches. As long as a strap enhances a certain watch, I'm okay with it. Maybe that's the designer in me; I always feel the need to create a new combination or setup and enjoy the process of trying different straps out.

    As far as the hardware, I totally agree... Using the Omega spring-bars is probably best for the watch.

    I'm going to get a black version of this Hadley Roma genuine alligator that I had for my ORIS, for my new Aqua Terra. Just have to decide if I want matching or white stitching. I love the 20/20 mm cut of it!



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    Re: Smaller diameter spring-bars/speed pins bad for lug holes?

    Now that there's agreement that Omega spring bars are best, does anyone know anything about the "Swiss Made 1.8 mm Thick Double Flange 20 mm Spring Bar", item no: FB-7883 on this page at Ofrei?

    http://www.ofrei.com/page957.html

    Would these be identical to the Omega spring bars, or very close? They're supposed to be hand-made by Swiss virgins, or something.

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    Re: Smaller diameter spring-bars/speed pins bad for lug holes?

    When I buy aftermarket straps, I always ask if the vendor could include a pair of correct lug width 1.8 mm diameter stainless steel spring bars. Most will include them, at no extra charge, if you ask nicely. As long as they are 1.8 mm, and high quality steel, the brand isn't important. Double flange are easier to work with, as well. At the price quoted, I may order some of those.

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    Re: Smaller diameter spring-bars/speed pins bad for lug holes?

    Thanks for the tip, Kat! Makes sense. So, 1.8 mm diameter spring-bars it is, from now on. Gotta love the great info that gets shared here.


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