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The "Official" Shogun Thread

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So we have an official Tuna thread, official Sumo thread, official Solar Chrono thread...we definitely NEED an Official Shogun Thread. I know that this will not be as popular as the others given most enthusiast's opinion of the Shogun however I would love to see a nice collection of pictures, thoughts and opinions in one thread. I'll start:

I've had Swiss divers more than any others and in all honesty (and for various reasons) just have not been happy with them. I've owned several Seikos in the past and have flipped them...but always missed them when they were gone. I've also never been a fan of titanium as I preferred the heft of stainless but I did not want to let that limit my choices.

I did my research and the biggest issues I found were the price point and the use of the Monster style hands. Personally I really like the Monster style hour hand...it really lends to the overall design elements of the dial. Another issue was Hardlex being used as opposed to sapphire...again, no issue for me as I prefer this. That left price...so I sold off a few items and that no longer was an issue.

The Shogun was delivered two weeks ago and I've been wearing it non-stop. At first I was taken aback by the light weight...it just felt "cheap". Everything is titanium; case, bracelet and clasp. Despite how it felt it looked like a million bucks! I've got pretty big wrists so I didn't need to remove any links, just the micro-adjustment. I immediately put it on my wrist and all weight issues were forgotten. It's just such a beauty with it finely brushed finish and complimentary polished areas. The lugs are angular, though not to the extent of the Samurai. This aspect of case design isn't always captured in pictures.

I must say, the feel of titanium is just so silky that it really makes up for the lack of weight. In appearance the Shogun is the best of both worlds...looks like stainless but with the slightly darker grey of titanium.

A couple things I do not really like. The included "rubber" strap is cheap...it just doesn't feel cheap, it IS cheap. It does have titanium hardware but it is very thin and composed of plastic...very stiff and non-conforming. I'm also not a fan of the titanium bracelet...it's also quite thin. I guess being titanium bulk is not needed for strength but it just seems "weak"..



 
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OK guys, it happened quicker than expected . . . I took the plunge.
Opportunity popped up, like-new condition, a reflex kicked in, and I grabbed it, all the while not being sure if I would, or should.
Cost me 749€, a lot (didn't think I would spend that kind of money on a watch), but this model has always been expensive.
Speaking of expensive, check out these Amazon offers . . . crazy! (Bear in mind, a seller can always ask what he wants . . . whether he gets it is another story).
 

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It's pretty hard to shatter a sapphire crystal though, a lot harder than it is to scratch Hardlex, so I think it's a poor argument. If I spent a fortune on a watch that had a mineral crystal in it though, I'd probably be trying to justify it to myself too. Or I'd maybe just replace it with a sapphire like so many others on here do. Also, if the reason for this really is to do with sapphire shattering underwater, then why not use acrylic which wouldn't shatter at all like mineral or sapphire?
 
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So this guy in the video basically says "well if you thought the Shogun was overpriced before, it's maybe not so bad now because this is a limited edition and they added a sapphire and a cyclops for about $1000 more". lol

By the way, does the crystal sit above the bezel on the normal Shoguns like it does on this one? Look in the video at 10:45, it's sticking out by about 1mm.

Another thing I noticed is at 11:37 he's saying "everything lines up the way you'd like to see it" while simultaneously showing that the chapter ring is clearly off at the 6 o'clock marker.
 
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In the grand theme of things there really isn't a huge price difference between hardlex and sapphire for a given model. Even if double, we're talking say $20 for an end user. Maybe even less for a manufacturer to produce, or source in volume. One reason I don't buy into the complaint that at "x" price point and above Seiko should use sapphire.
 
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Re: The "Official" Shogun Thread



Then that's a good thing! You can swap out a scratched crystal for sapphire if you want. I'll stick with Hardlex because it's not a big deal to me and I might as well go with the cheaper option.

I'm not sure how much Seiko's costs are for either material but doubling the cost of any major component for manufacturers is a big deal.

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