Pin and collar question. Please advise.

[flipangle]

I am in the process of resizing the bracelet on my Sumo. Have successfully removed the pin and collar. I now want to put the bracelet back together again. I know that you just put the pin and collar back. I have a tool to push the pin back in but what to I use to push the collar back? The screw type tool I have has a tip that is too small so the collar fits right over it. As far as I know, you're supposed to pushed the collar back in until it is slightly recessed. What can I use to do this? Thanks!

[SonnyD]

You just need something that won't do as you mentioned,....slip into the collar. It needs to
be slightly bigger then the pin pusher, but small enough to fit into the bracelet hole.
Something like a pin punch.
Regards Sonny

[Mufflon]

I take a cutted nail with 1,2mm width fits perfect.

Bye, Klaus

[valvestem]

http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WatchToo...ingToolUse.htm

Here's a link used before on this forum, as a reference to the procedure.

[Topher1556]

If you removed a link, I use the fat end of the extra pin that was removed. I hold it in a pair of pliers (usually locking pliers), and use it to push the collar back onto the pin. Make sure you have something pushing the installed pin also, so that you can fully seat the collar (this will require some dexterity...you want to push both in at the same time). Otherwise the pin/collar in the watch will slide back and forth inside the link on the watch.

[kontai69]

What I do is use a pin tool. They usually are found on the opposite end of a springbar tool (see right hand side of tool shown in attached pic). If you push the pin against the edge of the collar, you can hold the collar in place without having the pin head go into the collar hole. Hope that makes sense.

[flipangle]

Excellent ideas everyone! Thanks! I hate the pin and collar setup. Why doesn't Seiko use split pins like Citizen?

[NickDolin]

If you removed a link, I use the fat end of the extra pin that was removed. I hold it in a pair of pliers (usually locking pliers), and use it to push the collar back onto the pin. Make sure you have something pushing the installed pin also, so that you can fully seat the collar (this will require some dexterity...you want to push both in at the same time). Otherwise the pin/collar in the watch will slide back and forth inside the link on the watch.

This is what I used. I had the fat end of the pin that was going back in being held in place by placing a zippo against it and pushed the collar with the fat end of the removed pin. Wasn't too bad if you know what not to do, like lose the collar!

[ecalzo]

do not loose the collars,,,
please don't...
my friend lost one and i had to manage a lot
to find the replacement,,
i give my best thank you to madmacs
WTB: seiko monster pins and collars for Oem Braclet