LM-7 (PloProf) design thread 2

[smurfe]

Mitch, I will say it again. You have patience far beyond that of a mortal man.

I agree.

Mark, this is fun as long as it remains friendly. After all, we're talking watches, not life and death.

Mitch

I agree, I agree, I agree. I do work in "Life and Death" situations everyday as a paramedic for a metro EMS service. There isn't a quarter of the drama at work I see on the forums at times. Thank goodness it looks like it will be a little calmer for at least the time being. Hopefully permanently. As I mimic my best Monty Python moniker "Now back to our regularly scheduled programing.:

[Broker]

It will be brushed. If someone really wants a polished finish, they can have it done easily. It is much more difficult to apply a brushed finish.

Mitch

Brushed seems to "scream" tool diver to me. It's always easy to have it buffed up if you really like the polished look.

Todd

[jon12w]

Wow this thread has gone ballistic....

Graeme, thanks fo taking down the pic.

Mitch, Lovin your work and patience m8. :)

[Denizen]

just to weigh in with some observations just because it's late at night and i'm bored when i should be catching up on my sleep

1) can't fault a guy for being enthusiastic. if someone wants to buy 2, i don't think Mitch would mind...i certainly don't care. if the watch were an LE, then maybe imposing a limit of 1 reservation number per customer a fair idea. obviously, it's a non-factor since this isn't an LE.

2) i think Fig ruffed some feathers because everything about his posts screamed "Speculator".

his request for #2, #3, or #8 on the reservation list, his insistence on making this a LE or to somehow distinguish the initial run to make it potentially desireable for potential collectors, his stance that he was the spokeperson for the silent majority on asking for a LE (rather presumptuous, certainly self-serving), to finally name-calling some fellow forum members. just not the thing to do...

anyways...let's try to get the thread back on topic to the final design decisions.

Let me weigh in on this situation if I may. Firstly, I'd like to apologize for being a pig! I think I'm the first person to make mention of my desire to see the LM-7 be limited like the LM-1 LE. I was wrong to have said anything, I'm just happy to be getting in on the ground floor. I say that Mitch should keep doing what he's doing:build quality watches coming in at an astonishing price point.

Secondly, I'd like to apologize for introducing the 'buying 2' concept. I have a watch shop; if somebody has interest about the watch on my wrist and wants to buy my spare I'll bring in a brand new fan into the Ocean 7 watch brand. I don't know if that validates my reasoning, but I emphasize that my interest in Ocean 7 is not about making a buck on the brand. It's about the type/style of watches I (and a lot of others) love: tool divers.

[messenius]

I 've been comparing LM-7 case against ploprof case form the front. To my eye the general outline of LM-7 seems to be more square. What do you think?



ploprof picture from ukwatches.com

I'm not technical expert so I don't know how far the case size and form is dictated by the need to incorporate necessary HEV and different kind of crown system.

Mitch wrote that LM-7 case is modern interpetation of ploprof and I quite like the curved case top, but if possible some fine tuning in ploprof case direction would really be great

Tero

[Denizen]

personally, i'm in favor of anything making the case a littlemore more streamlined or smaller in width. not talking about a huge change, but a few mm here and afew there can work wonders.

the HEV on the LM-7 looks more blockier than the original. i certainly wouldn't mind seeing the side slope in more like the original.

I 've been comparing LM-7 case against ploprof case form the front. To my eye the general outline of LM-7 seems to be more square. What do you think?



ploprof picture from ukwatches.com

I'm not technical expert so I don't know how far the case size and form is dictated by the need to incorporate necessary HEV and different kind of crown system.

Mitch wrote that LM-7 case is modern interpetation of ploprof and I quite like the curved case top, but if possible some fine tuning in ploprof case direction would really be great

Tero

[watchyouwant]

something else: ray in hong kong sells steel mesh bands 20 to 24 mm for US$ 25. might be an option. kind regards. achim

[MitchSF]

I think you're right about the PloProf being more square, but we're not trying to copy the case. I'm sure someone will do that in the future. It's not hard to guess where a copy will come from. You can see that we left a little more room at the top and bottom for large straps.

I don't believe that there are remaining patents on the bezel lock and crown. At least we couldn't find them. Be that as it may, I still would not try to duplicate those features. If you don't own a PloProf, you may not know that the crown is square, not round. Have you ever tried to wind or set a watch with a square crown? The crown we use is round, and the assembly is good to at least 1500m, probably 2000m, although we can only test to 1000m.

A unidirectional bezel is much easier to set with one hand. It is possible to press the button and turn the PloProf bezel using one hand, but not easy.

These solutions were innovative in the 1970's, but their time has come and gone. Otherwise Omega would use have used them on future models. There are better solutions now, and we are using them. The only reason to go backward is to make a copy, and that's not what we are doing.

Just my opinion.

Mitch

[MitchSF]

One more thing - the crown and HEV style will change. It will be grooved to look more like the original.

Mitch

[lordsinclair]

Hang in there, Mitch! The LM-7 is going to be fantastic. Thank you for all your hard work pulling this unique project together.