LM-7 (PloProf) design thread 3

[IanM]

Mitch and all
The bevelled edges make the revised CAD version look too "ergonomic" in my (very humble) opinion and not enough "tool".
So - I would like to say:
1. old caseback preferred;
2. new 5 minute markers, bezel and dial colour are superb;and
3. red HEV is not a priority to me but, form relying on function, should be grooved so that it can perform its intended function. The LM-7 HEV is an "unscrew thread to release pressure" arangement, not a push-button - am I right?
We are not all experts (I am certainly not) and it is great to be able to express what is only an opinion after all.
Another pat on the back from me for all the patience you show, and the great work you do, Mitch. Well done!
IanM

[ksv123]

the beveled edge does not work for me either.

the dial is fine, maybe the 5 min marks could be a tad thinner.

what color is that dial? looks like 282 to me.

i like the other hev not the smooth one.

Thanks Mitch.

[MikeW]

I agree with Mitch's comments 100%.

Best, Mike W.

[messenius]

The HEV side of the case seems bigger than before. I was hoping that it could be smaller, but maybe HEV needs all that space?

All in all I like the first case version better(no bevels). Dial and bezel are improvements IMO, 5 minute markers could be thinner though. And for the ease of use, I think that the HEV shouldn't be smooth.

Tero

[Joerg Dorr]

Hi,
sorry to correct you, I am a diving instructor for many years and believe me, red is the first colour that will disappear (disappear may be not the correct word, sorry for my english), a little later orange, than yellow and at last green and blue. I don't want to struggle about one meter or two and I agree that it depends on more than one factor, like visibility, weather conditions etc. but finally it's physics.
As I wrote before I will by this watch either way, red, stainless, yellow, black, whatever Mitch will decide.
regards
Joerg

...Joerg, red doesn't just disappear at 3m. It fades out a varying depths depending on latitude, time of day, distance from your eye, shade of red, turbidity, etc. And when I photograph my LM-7 at 40m, I'll be using 2 strobes to bring out the colours [/quote]

[Orka]

I also like the new case with the beveled edge
Crowns shoud be grooved imo
I would prefer the dial without 5 minutes marker



The beveled case edge was designed to give the watch a modern look. To my eye, it doesn't work. Unless there is overwhelming support for it, we'll go back to the way it was.

Both crowns should be grooved, like the original PloProf. The HEV should not be smooth, whether we make it red or not.

The dial and bezel are closer to the PloProf. The dial is certainly much busier. What do you think?

Mitch



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[bobbysamd]

[M]aybe the 5 min marks could be a tad thinner.

Not the main five minute markers on the outer edge of the dial but the long ones....I agree.

[JAD3703]

Mitch,

I'll chime in and agree with the others regarding the beveled case edge - I do not like it.

As for the HEV crown - agreed that it should be grooved so that it is easier to manipulate.

I like the face design, although it is rather busy. I'm not falling on my sword on this one and I will go with whatever the consensus is regarding the interior dial five minute markers, although they do tend to overly clutter the face. Can they be made a bit thinner and shorter?

Any chance that they can do a CAD which utilizes Pantone 296 for the dial colour as another consideration?

It looks awesome and thanks for letting us throw in our opinions, Mitch.

Regards,

James

[Joerg Dorr]

Here are my thoughts:
- the HEV seems bigger than before, is that a must?
- first case version looks better.
- HEV should not be smooth.
regards
Joerg

[MitchSF]

This dial is Pantone 282. They are making samples in both shades.

One thing I forgot to mention is that they did not fix the right side, in this revision. In the cad is it curved, but I asked for straight lines and an angle, as on the PloProf case.

I think we will go back to the slight bevel, as the original cad shows. The PloProf's edges are not beveled. That's probably why the case top edges look so battered on many examples.

Which bezel do you like better for this watch, the first or second cad? The second is closer to the PloProf, the first, closer to other OCEAN7 designs.

I'm still not sure about the dial, particularly the 5 minute marks. It kind of goes against our simple dial theme, but on this watch I don't mind, if that's what seems appropriate.

The HEV does look too big here. I believe it will be around 7mm. The case is contoured, so we have to be careful about the geometry.

The factory will wait before starting on the case sample. We will meet at the factory next week, to discuss all outstanding issues.

By Monday I would like to list a summary of everything to be discussed.

Mitch