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[Nalu]

I'll agree with Dave's comments above, especially WRT the hour hand.

I'm also concerned about the "red-orange" 021C. It's well known that fluorescent colors work best under water (see any Citizen Aqualand with an orange minute). If you're reluctant to use fluorescent orange, I'd tend toward a yellow-orange rather than a red-orange.

All IMHO, you guys are the boss.

[MitchSF]

I have a picture of the dial using C1 lume. Because the hour hand and lume are both white, it looks like a big white blob. At least with C3 we have some differentiation between the lume and the hand. The markers look nice in white because they match the indexes, but I think overall the look is much better with C3.

I've asked about a fluorescent orange color.A custom date ring would delay the order by several months. We are secheduled for October delivery of the movements from ETA, and everything should be ready for final assembly when they arrive. If we change the movement order now, delivery is quoted at seven months plus who knows how much longer for a custom date ring.

We are considering placing an order for additional movements for the LM-1 and LM-2 now, since it now takes seven months to get them.The luminous coating cannot be too thick, or it will crack.

Mitch

[Malyel]

Here's an update to the dial, with the correct second hand. The other changes mentioned previously, have not yet been made.[/COLOR]

http://www.ocean7watchco.com/ocean7dialV2.pdf

Sorry guys but I am disappointed with the dial and hands on this latest version. They look very different then the original drawings. The hands look very similar to the Orsa blue dialed diver that came out 2-3 years ago.



I was hoping the Plongeur style hands would be true to your original sketches with a long wide handle. Instead the handles are short and very thin. Additionally the hour hand looks way too big. Look how much lume was on the original Ploprof hands. It's hands had very little lume. I really hope this manufacture sketch is not what the finished product will look like.



As for the dial, the 5 minute markers extend past the minute markers which is different from the original. The markers at 12, 3, 6, and 9 look very blocky. They look to have the same width from one end to the other. I also think super LumiNova C1 does not do as well as C3. Here is a pic that shows a low light comparison.

[MitchSF]

The markers will be changed in the next drawing, and we are working on issues with the hands.

Malyel - My PloProf has a pointed hour hand. I don't believe I've seen one like yours before.

Thanks,
Mitch

[Malyel]

The markers will be changed in the next drawing, and we are working on issues with the hands.

Malyel - My PloProf has a pointed hour hand. I don't believe I've seen one like yours before.

Thanks,
Mitch

Mitch, sadly, it is not mine. I wish it were mine.

I think that's what drew me to the LM-1 from the start. I really hope the LM-1 will be a modern interpretation of the PloProf design that one could wear daily and enjoy. The rising values of those divers make it difficult to buy and enjoy. I hope this design goal is one we both share for the LM-1.

[Nalu]

Malyel - My PloProf has a pointed hour hand. I don't believe I've seen one like yours before.

There was an older version of the hour hand on the PloProf which was blunt. The newer version is pointed and the blunt version are no longer available AFAIK. Important for PP owners to know before sending their watch in to Bienne for service (if you want to keep your blunt hand).

OT - there are also at least two different versions of the PP dial, bezel and case. I'm trying to find more info on these variants, but really the only thing I have to go off of are internet photos and info from fellow PP owners.

[mepul]

[quote=LaHugh]Here's an update to the dial, with the correct second hand. The other changes mentioned previously, have not yet been made.

http://www.ocean7watchco.com/ocean7dialV2.pdf

Hello Mitch,

I must admit that I did not like that hand combination in the latest pdf document.
Hour hand is too wide, seconds hand seems too thin. The minute hand is not a "PP" hand either .

My points for a better proportioned dial are below for your consideration...

1- Main hand handles might be a bit thicker and should be at equal length.
2- Bottom widths of the main hands should also be equal.
3- Hour hand must be narrowed down; also to get the lumed area width matching with the main hour markers'.
4- Minute hand might be longer to proportion the expected "PP" hand's fatty appearance and the large dial diameter.
5- Seconds hand should be thicker and might be lengthened till the end of minute markers. This harmonizes better with the dial and the dominant main hands. This way the sweeping effect covers the dial area completely since it's orange marked tip is hoped to be quite visible...

As before Mitch those are just my opinions.
Since you are the creator and we are the supporters only please feel confident that I fully respect your final decisions and will proudly wear Ocean7 in any case .

Wish the power is with you and LaHugh in this work.

Mehmet

[MitchSF]

We agree with most of these comments. Stand by for an update on the dial and hands.


Case - it will be completely brushed, except the lug edges will be flattened and polished. The raised parts of the bezel edge will be polished. That's it. This should look good. The case will also be easy to refinish when necessary, and of course it will be necessary at some point, especially if the watch is used for diving.

Any comments or suggestions on this?

Mitch

[Nalu]

That sounds good to me, Mitch. Polished bezel edges echo many a classic. I actually like a bit of polished surface on my divers - gets the 'cudas in close!

[MitchSF]

We're still working on a few details. I don't see any problem with this dial. There is a little more taper on the big markers at 12,3,6, and 9, and the stick-on chrome index inlays have been removed.

I don't like the first set of hands at all. The second set is close, but still not what we originally had in mind.

The color was changed to Pantone 084C.

Comments?

Mitch

http://www.ocean7watchco.com/O7dialv3.pdf