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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

    As some who uses their watches in the water this is now going to make me reconsider which one to get, I was leaning toward a Phenomenato but now I'm not sure. Don't want a watch getting losing up at 15" under water
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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

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    I'm guessing you are an engineer. :)
    I don't know if he's and engineer or not, but being an engineer, I would have expected nothing less than what's been already been reported. Great job!


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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

    Quote Originally Posted by duc View Post
    I'm guessing you are an engineer. :)
    Heh, no not an engineer by training or vocation. :) Perhaps you could say scientist at heart with a liking for facts and figures, even if my day job involves more use of estimates, mechanical principles, and guidelines rather than actual crunching of numbers, due to some things which just can't be measured, at least practically speaking (which usually means trying to "overengineer" things as much as is practical...)

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    As some who uses their watches in the water this is now going to make me reconsider which one to get, I was leaning toward a Phenomenato but now I'm not sure. Don't want a watch getting losing up at 15" under water
    I think from a purely functional point of view of keeping the watch on your wrist, the strap will not stretch enough to let the watch come off, though it would definitely expand enough to loosen it such that the watch would move around more.

    (Here I go with the numbers again)

    eg. for a 7-inch/178mm wrist, a 5.2% stretch is a 9.2mm (0.36 inch) increase in circumference, which if you estimate with a circular wrist, corresponds to a 2.9mm (0.11 inch) increase in diameter. Won't come off, but definitely not snug anymore.

    If you're swimming and the strap will be completely immersed, perhaps the ToxicBUTTA would be the strap of choice, since it seemed to hardly stretch at all (though perhaps someone else may have to report on long-term longevity with water exposure, given the weave of the fabric), which would be nice with arm movements if you want the strap to stay snug. If the question is rather one of just getting the strap wet (eg. for me it would be hiking and fell into a stream, or some other similar folly), I think any of them would still keep the watch on the wrist fine, if somewhat looser (like a bracelet that's oversized by one link) until it dries. Granted, a rubber strap is still probably the best solution (or perhaps one of WatchGecko's rubber NATO's?) for actual swimming.

    All that said, numbers can only say so much, and I'll defer to any real-world swimming experience with the "seatbelt" straps (changes in size of wrist underwater?), if anybody has any accounts to share.
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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

    Well I am an engineer. If I had the authority, I would make you an honorary engineer. Your logic, precision and attention to detail are extremely good. Additionally, unlike many engineers, you presented your information in a manner that is easily understood. Well done.
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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

    The stretch in a wet NATO isn't a big deal. Either tighten it one hole so it's snug again or, if you actually dive, the compression of your wetsuit will be something else you have to deal with, too.

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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

    P.S. Thank you for the AWESOME review and comparison.

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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

    Great thread. Really interesting information and great comparison pictures. As of yesterday I now have just about every NATO discussed in this thread expect for the Omega. However, I do have a Tudor NATO. The Tudor is well above the rest but the Toxic, Cincy, Gecko, Phenom, and BluShark are all great straps. Frankly it's getting hard to rank them when they are all so good. I think the each offer something a little different and it's great to have so many great vendors to choose from. Rather than rank them I'll put my positive and negative about each one.

    Alpha (Fantastic Colors / less soft than the seat belt)
    Cincy (nice weave / feels a little thin)
    Gecko (very comfortable / super long)
    Phenom (great sizing and can have it cut to a specific length / pretty shiny)
    Toxic (great hard ware / seems like it will fray with lots of wear)
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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

    thank you for the review. I'm planning to get one from Phenom and this helps very much
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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

    What a great thread.
    Super detailed comparisons and well presented.
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    Re: "Seatbelt" NATO strap roundup: BluShark, Cincy, PhenomeNato, and WatchGecko (Picture heavy!)

    Blue phenomenato earlier on the smurf.



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