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    Re: The Unofficial Sinn U series ownership experience thread

    Hi Guys.

    Well, it’s time for my first Sinn UX ownership experience post. I received this new in box UX on the 23rd of August of this year.

    All of you have heard of this one and Marcus (oyster) has posted some absolutely awesome pics that have driven us all crazy this year. His pics were the straw that broke my bank account’s back.

    For those of you who are new to the Sinn U series experience and are not up to spec on the UX, I shall update you on what a UX is. The rest of you, please ignore the blue text and read on.

    The Case and bezel

    The UX is basically the same sub steel case, described to death on this thread, as the U1 and U2 except that the case back is flat instead of convex. The bezel is thinner because the UX makes use of a thinner flat sapphire crystal. The overall thickness, depending on where you read it is 12 or 13mm instead of the 14mm thickness of the U1 and the 15.45mm thickness of the U2.

    Silicon Oil

    The UX is filled with clear silicon oil which is basically incompressible. This makes the UX waterproof to pretty much any reachable depth. The crystal can be thinner because it is not protecting a void from crushable pressure. Please read this excellent silicon oil article pulled from the articles section on this forum. It pretty much says it all.

    The Movement

    The movement is not an automatic movement like the U1 and U2 but is an ETA Thermo-compensated quartz movement which is claimed to be accurate to about 10 seconds a year. Actual reports are coming in at between +5 and 10 sec/year for watches with similar T/C quartz movements. These movements are the most accurate movements available anywhere. Because its quartz, it’s far more resistant to shock. (less moving parts) The quartz movement is the weak link in the depth rating of the UX as components inside will crush at a depth of between 5000 and 6000 meters I am told. Others, please correct this if I have the figures wrong.

    Now, on to my ownership experience….>

    This watch is incredible. The silicon oil really improves the readability of the dial and makes it, to me, the most clearly readable dial I have ever seen. The layout of the dial is perfection personified!! Add to this the darkening of the matte black dial to a super rich featureless black that makes the cut-out for the date and the black portions of the hands totally indiscernible from the dial. It all blends in together. The oil also performs an optical illusion which negates the depth perception of the particulars. The hands and the dial seem to be on the same plane. The only depth noticeable is the edge of the bezel when view from a 90 degreeish angle.

    The clarity of vision and readability of the whole dial at pretty much all angles is amazing. Again, the oil performs an optical illusion which, when dragging the angles closer to a flat zero degrees seems to pull the dial and hands up so that it’s almost a part of the crystal and at the most extreme readable angles possible, it almost looks like the dial and hands are litho-painted to the top of the crystal. Please see this video to see this effect in action.



    I find this extreme clarity and readability very handy when I’m in appointments which are running long and when a glance for the time is needed, I can just give a quick indiscreet glance and can get the time without drawing attention to the act which may be taken as a rude gesture by the other person. When driving, I can just give a quick glance to get the time. Handy in the Firebird as it has no clock.

    Lume.

    Here is an excerpt from a post I had recently which pretty much explains it all. “I have this little wire thingy I made up that hangs on my lamp shade. It allows me to hang my UX an inch or so away from the side of my 100w lightbulb. I usually leave it hanging while I get ready for bed.

    Once ready, I slip it on my wrist. I like to wear my watch all night as I have a really bad back as a result of a motorcycle accident 5 years ago and moving around in bed can be painful at times. With a watch on, I can just glance at the time on my wrist without having to move to see my nightclock.

    The lume on the UX after the 1 to 2 minute exposure as above is very good and will maintain a perfect legibility for a long time. I find that I can clearly read the time 6 or 7 hours after lights out. The fact that the UX has a short hour hand and a long minute hand makes for no chance for a mix-up. With dreary, sleepy eyes in the dark, I can make out the time quickly and easily so it works well for me. There are some who absolutely insist on brilliant luminescence all night but I don't find this very necessary for me. If I can read the time without straining, that's good enough.

    The lume is a greenish lume and isn't as bright right off the bat as my U2. The U2 can be clearly seen to be more bright for an hour or two and then the difference is less discernable.

    It is my opinion that the silicon oil difuses the light and dulls the lume a bit like it darkens the black dial and the hands a bit in daylight. I don't see this as hampering the lume for the whole night to a point where it makes the oil filling a detriment to the user experience. Others will disagree depending on how important the brightness of the luminoscity is the grand scheme of things for them.

    I would therefore recommend to any UX owner an exposure to bright incandescent light for a period of about 2 minutes and then you should be fine for the night. If you are inclined to look in the direction of the best luminescence in the watchworld, well, there's tritium and then there's the Stowa prodiver and Seiko black monster and others to consider. In the end, with a two minute exposure, all of the above mentioned watches will be easily readable in the morning. The difference is that this watch is oil filled and thermo-compensated with submarine steel protecting it.
    "

    How does it wear??

    Very nicely thank you! It sits much lower on my wrist than my U2 as the case back is flat as opposed to convex and it has a thinner bezel and a flat crystal as opposed to the domed U2 crystal. The thinner UX is nicer for those who wear their watch under their sleeves. Not really applicable to me as I wear sweaters and the U2 was no problem to wear under them. Of note, I took my stainless steel bracelet from my U2 and installed it on my UX and found that my UX wore looser on my wrist than the U2. Not much but noticeable.

    The outside Anti-reflective coating.

    The anti-reflective coating is prone to smudging but it’s not a problem for me as I just tend to glance at the watch for the time during the day and the time is quickly discernable from any angle and the smudges are not seen. The a/r works well for this. When you really look at your dial from straight on, you can see the smudges and it might bother some. For me, it’s no biggie as this is a work watch and absolute pristine perfection is not important. Cleaning is easy. Just take a napkin and wet the end and clean and rub good. Presto!! Clean.

    The crown

    It doesn’t screw down four complete turns like the U2 but about 2 ½. The seal seems very solid though. Same nice crown as the U2 and very user friendly.

    Crystal…Domed vs Flat.


    Here’s a link to a thread I posted comparing the U2 and UX crystals and the dial clarity and readability at angles. Pics included.

    U2 vs UX : Dial and refraction pics

    Accuracy.

    This UX is running dead on. Set to the atomic clock the day I received it, after 18 days, it's dead on. You can't get any better.
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    This watch is very highly recommended!!

    If one can get over the automatic bias you may just realize that this watch might just be the end of the world if your in search of perfection. It's got it all, Superb construction and simple clean design, super strong and scratch resistant case, perfect size (at least for me), very slim considering the w/r rating, super clarity and readability from all angles, unsurpassed accuracy and it's very shock resistant and completely waterproof!! Can't ask for much more.

    Unfortunately, the production cannot meet the already high demand. Put your name on the list or hope for a pre-owned one to come up for sale. You won’t be sorry....It's well worth waiting for!!

    Thanks for reading.

    Tim
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    Re: The Unofficial Sinn U series ownership experience thread

    Tim, nice post as usual

    looks like people are getting desperate cause of the wait.

    I've just seen a one-year old UX on the german bay that sold for EUR 1100.- .....

    It included both leather and metal strap - but still that price is almost the new list price of EUR 1185.- from Sinn for this.

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    Re: The Unofficial Sinn U series ownership experience thread

    Today I SINNED.
    This afternooon, I had a hunch that the dealer had stock of a U1. And so I called the dealer, and guess what?! It just came in this morning. Told the dealer to hold the watch for me as I rushed through heavy traffic to reach there.
    Saw the watch. D*mn! I must have it! Paid for it and got the dealer to size it fo me. I have very small wrist - about 6 inches. Fortunately after removing the ..err...whatchacall-it...the extendable part of the clasps (to accomodate the diving suit) ... and still leaving an extra hole on the rubber strap, the watch can now wear on the wrist nicely.
    I'm a happy man today. And I now have the U1. Still excited about the watch...so not much to say for now...:-D

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    Re: The Unofficial Sinn U series ownership experience thread

    Welcome to the U1 family...
    Sure you will enjoy your watch...
    Rgds

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    Re: The Unofficial Sinn U series ownership experience thread

    I just received my SINN U1 this afternoon. AMAZING.....I sized the strap and LOVE the look of the entire package. I think the deployant with the rubber strap is awesome looking. The dial is the deepest black I've ever seen - it's absolutely gorgeous. The color of the sub steel is different and unique. The AR coating on the outside renders the crystal almost invisible, which I think is terrific. (I know the smudging is a source of frustration for many - I hope I can avoid the same issues) I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces and putting some pics up on this forum.
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    Re: The Unofficial Sinn U series ownership experience thread

    Sounds great, Iricks ... we look forward to hearing of your expoeriences (and photos).
    Cheers,

    Martin ("Crusader")



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    Re: The Unofficial Sinn U series ownership experience thread

    I just want to say that as of today, my AD, HG, has sent my U2 in for servicing for some AR coating that came off as a result of abrasive action against my watch winder's inside glass panel.

    Nothing to be alarmed at, though I wishes I do not have to fork any money for this project. I am already quite broke having bought the D1 142Ti and now this happens!

    I am certainly looking forward to having my U2 finely tuned, hopefully the copper sulphate capsule changed, argon gas refilled, all marks removed, and not to mention, the AR coating recoated!

    Hope it would not be too long before I get reunited with my beloved U2. Oh no, what am I gonna do and how can I sleep w/o my U2 :oops:

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    Re: The Unofficial Sinn U series ownership experience thread

    3rd day with my U1 - and it hasn't left my wrist except for sleep. I LOVE the AR, which causes the crystal to just disappear. It really is a striking look. The color of the steel is amazing - and I love the finish. One of my favorite things about the watch is the look of the rubber strap with the large buckle. Together they create one of the most unique combinations in the watch world. Very nice. Here are a few pics:

    http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_0296.jpg
    http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_0282.jpg
    http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_0278.jpg
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    Sinn U1 is worth everything!

    Hi All ,
    I received my U1 in Feb of 2006 and it is 8 months later,
    I have added the bracelet and just wanted to share how
    much I too love this watch!The rubber straps is the most
    comfortable, using the original large clasp I can not say
    enough about this strap- SINN hit a home run with this.


    The bracelet took a while for me to get used to, as I had a
    micro sizing issue, but I did not give up and now it is a regular
    switch , when the " MOOD hits me" awesome, and I found
    that if there any scratches that happen the little squares of
    repair paper that I bought from Watch and renew are just the
    right ticket for bringing back that new look..........


    The bracelet is huge and heavy, as we all know
    and SINN did it all up right with the solid links,
    and allen screws and solid end pcs.
    The seller I bought my bracelet from also included
    the allen wrenches and loctite and it works great.
    - PS reminds me of a tank tread........


    My son will eventually get this watch , or I will
    end up buying him one. Out of all my watches
    ( he has a Sekio BM and Binnacle) he loves
    the U1 and just thinks it rocks.


    Pure beauty, and at the price I bought it for brand new
    since they are going up you cant beat everything you get for
    it, out of it and with it.
    Now we all know that some people's thoughts I have seen
    in print think it looks like a childs lego display,
    but we all have different tastes, but whenever I put
    the U1 on my wrist I think back to wanting it so bad from
    all the pics I saw prerelease and
    seeing Harry Tans web review ----
    I "count my lucky blessings" I could find one
    and buy it and enjoy this piece of watch history.





    Thanks Sinn , thanks so much!!!!!!!:gold
    Regards
    Robert


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    Re: The Unofficial Sinn U series ownership experience thread

    The view from Oz -
    Hadn't seen the U series in the flesh (since they don't come here) but I took a punt on a grey market U2 which, strangely enough, came with papers from an authorised dealer who shall remain nameless ...
    This is one ugly lump of a watch. And heavy.
    And it does just about everything I've ever wanted - goes in water, tells me the hour in places I'd rather be as well as where I am. I can read it even without my coke-bottle glasses on.
    Plus, it works just fine as a hammer: crunched it against a range hood the other day and not a mark on it. Wish I could say the same for the appliance ...
    My tip is that these babies are destined to occupy the place of early submariners in the eyes of our children's children's children.
    Cheers
    Ken

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