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    Re: Manufacturing TAG Heuer - New mechanism 1887

    A more complicated movement, the V4, was developed in 5 years so doing a regular auto movement in three years isnt out of the realm of possibility considering TAGs resources.

    I'm not saying it is or isn't but I am saying it can be done. Frankly, looking at the photos, I don't see a noticeable resemblance.

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    Re: in house caliber or another company's IP?

    Well, I have a question.

    Do you have reliable data on this issue?

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    Re: Manufacturing TAG Heuer - New mechanism 1887

    Hi,

    I have seen the pics, from both calibers. The column wheel, the levers, the springs, everything is strictly identical between the 2.

    And the HER praised by Babin is just the Seiko Magic Lever system.

    Sorry guys, but this is not just guessing. It's serious.

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    Re: Manufacturing TAG Heuer - New mechanism 1887

    Hi again guys,

    Just to show you this is no joke...

    Tag Column wheel :


    Seiko Column wheel :


    Official HER pic (from TAG) :


    Seiko Magic lever : (seiko invented it decades ago)


    This is just a quick post, but I've compared other parts, it's always the same...

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    Re: Manufacturing TAG Heuer - New mechanism 1887

    Interesting... very interesting. Thanks for posting!
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    Re: Manufacturing TAG Heuer - New mechanism 1887

    i doubt a brand like TagHeuer could copy a Seiko movt, lets see how does this goes.

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    Re: Manufacturing TAG Heuer - New mechanism 1887

    here is a lot of info on the movt, check it out
    http://presscorner.tagheuer.com/

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    Re: Manufacturing TAG Heuer - New mechanism 1887

    Hi,

    Of course Tag did not copy, they probably bought the right to produce it from Seiko, exactely the same as Jughans (they also pretended it was their movement, before admitting it's the seiko cal.).

    Of course, Tag will say no, but just the pics from their press corner are clear enough to declare it IS the seiko. Only the shape of the bridges has changed.

    The original Seiko is wonderful movement, much better than equivalent ETAs. It will be nice to see it in a Tag Heuer. The only problem, is all that bullshit talk, saying it's totally conceived and produced by Tag Heuer... And the "HER" hype... Not really serious.

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    Re: Manufacturing TAG Heuer - New mechanism 1887

    If TAG Heuer has bought the right to produce this movement Seiko, I think is not bad. But if this is true, and yet declare that the movement is developed entirely by them, could create confusion. The movement is very strong, since it is based Seiko. With the amendments of TAG Heuer will be a movement highly reliable, high quality insurance.

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    Last edited by JuanSinmiedo; December 8th, 2009 at 13:20.
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    Re: Manufacturing TAG Heuer - New mechanism 1887

    the Seiko 6S37 movement is 40 jewels and the tag 1887 is 39 jewel movement,the 1887 has 320 working parts and the Seiko 6s37 has 290 parts, other items are different also, in a watch case you can only have so many gears, wheels and springs before you run out of space, a watch keeps time so it is common for movements to look similar, but be different.
    Last edited by h2xmark; December 6th, 2009 at 01:41.
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