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    Re: New Aquaracer Ceramic 500m

    My only question is what is going to happen with the current 500m Chrono...

    Just wondering if Tag will maintain this line with the rubber bezel design or opt for a complete re-design to put it more in line with the new ceramic versions...

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    Re: New Aquaracer Ceramic 500m

    Quote Originally Posted by drunken monkey View Post
    ok, that is twice you've made small attacks towards my posting instead of discussing the topic.
    First that I was looking through blinders and now that my posting is defensive.

    Once again, I can't see how explaining what I see in terms of the watch's design, as being defensive.
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    That is a shortened version of the model history from 30+ years to now.
    I surely can't be the only one here who thinks that the AR500 still looks pretty much like a modernised version of that Heuer watch from all them years ago.

    So really, apart from the bezel insert's design and the helium valve at 10, what on the new AR500 is from a Planet Ocean and not a 2000/Aquaracer?
    They were not attacks, just pointing out the obvious. You are getting defensive and anyone who has posted here for more than a week knows that you tend to wear Tag blinders. Nothing wrong with that, you just like the brand a lot.

    I simply stated my opinion which is that the new AR500 looks like the PO and I still stand by my that. You can post as many pictures as you want and continue to rant, however are not going to change my opinion. Lets please move on.
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    Re: New Aquaracer Ceramic 500m

    Interesting.
    Again, you take the position that I am ranting now when, once again, I am simply trying to engage in some sort of discussion about the topic.

    Sure, everyone is entitled to their opinions but that by itself is meaningless unless one is free and able to explain their position.

    In this example, I think I have clearly shown the development of the watch since the mid 80s and how it has pretty much remained consistent.
    That is me explaining why I don't agree with your position.

    This isn't just because watch is a TAGHeuer. This is simply because I don't think that calling the AR500 a copy of the PO is valid.
    I post the same way when I see anything else I don't agree with.
    How else does one explain how they come to hold such an opinion or why one disagrees with it.

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    Re: New Aquaracer Ceramic 500m

    What watch does this one resemble? It's interesting debate because I see Rolex, Omega and Tag itself in the design when I look at this version, but I totally agree that the escape valve is too "Omega", but I might get one anyways to satisfy my craving for a two tone Rolex without spending the money.

    How many contradictions did i just make... ha ha ha LOL :)



    Here is a pic of all the new models. I still like the WAN 2110 better than the new 500 black version, but it opens up the idea of a blue one, or two tone...



    And the old WAN2110 for comparisons sake...

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    Re: New Aquaracer Ceramic 500m

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Jay View Post
    What watch does this one resemble? It's interesting debate because I see Rolex, Omega and Tag itself in the design when I look at this version, but I totally agree that the escape valve is too "Omega", but I might get one anyways to satisfy my craving for a two tone Rolex without spending the money.

    How many contradictions did i just make... ha ha ha LOL :)
    In a way, you high-light what I am talking about.
    If the simple act of making it the blue/steel/gold turns the watch into a Rolex look a like, then how much of a PO look a like can it really be in the first place?

    If the AR500 can look like two watches at the same time, then doesn't that suggest it isn't really as much like one or the other as some people are making it out to be?


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    Re: New Aquaracer Ceramic 500m

    They all 'borrow' design elements from one another. Just because Rollex hasn't come out with a new design in 50 years (kidding of course, kinda) doesn't mean everything was 100% new when they first brought it out.

    As for the new 500 here in the thread... well there is a lot of PO and Sub in there. I usually use the He value as a 'tell' when scoping out others wrists... yeah like you don't do that too!

    Anyway, the modern PO has roots back to the Seamaster 200 and 300's from years ago - but who knows where they got their ideas from!

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    Re: New Aquaracer Ceramic 500m

    I'll have to agree with Underpar. When I saw that photo from Calibre 11 all I though of was Planet Ocean. There's just too many similar elements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyJC
    I'll have to agree with Underpar. When I saw that photo from Calibre 11 all I though of was Planet Ocean. There's just too many similar elements.
    Then don't buy one. Problem solved.

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    Re: New Aquaracer Ceramic 500m

    I wonder, seeing as there hadn't been a blue Planet Ocean before the new titanium and there has always been a blue AR500, would anyone say the blue Planet Ocean is copying the AR500?

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    Re: New Aquaracer Ceramic 500m

    Quote Originally Posted by dnslater View Post
    I agree that both watches have a similar "look", but to call it a copy is a far stretch. Nearly all features of the watch are different. Not dramatically so, but it is a classicaly styled dive watch, and they are all similar. We have been down this road. The dial markers are most similar. Case is completely different. As far as the bezel goes, have you seen a Rolex sub? Tag didn't copy the triangle and 15 second markers like Omega did.

    BTW, heuer dive watches had similar bezel designs long before Tag was in the picture and Planet Oceans had been designed.
    I was going to post pretty much this. They have similar design elements, and that's it. Calling it a copy of the PO because it has a helium valve at 10, like the previous 500m had, or because the bezel is kind of similar, is an incredible stretch. It has a lot of similar features to a lot of previous Heuer dive watches, and honestly there's only so many ways you can make a classic looking 3 hand dive watch.

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