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    Re: How do ya spot a fake?

    i have a number of fakes that i purchased for fun when i was overseas(about 15-20 bucks a piece lol). i can take pics on request. holding a real breitling then a fake you can immediately tell..... the bracelet is poorly made, if you look closely at the face the pieces arent machined well and dont line up , even the second hands dont line up.


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    Re: How do ya spot a fake?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark*p View Post
    i have a number of fakes that i purchased for fun when i was overseas(about 15-20 bucks a piece lol). i can take pics on request. holding a real breitling then a fake you can immediately tell..... the bracelet is poorly made, if you look closely at the face the pieces arent machined well and dont line up , even the second hands dont line up.
    Hi Mark
    Thats a good offer, anything to try and stamp out fakes is great.
    HOWEVER BEWARE You purchased an illegal item and imported it.
    Did you know this: May 10th 2007 Mike Korpi from Portland Orgean came back from China with 8 fake Rolex watches. he paid $14.40 each, however when US customs found them he was fined $55,300. This was said to be the value of the counterfiet goods. Mike Korpi said they where for his children and grandchildren. Rolex can sue and demand $100,000 for each watch if they wanted. I dont think they will, but either way this should be a lesson to all.

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    Re: How do ya spot a fake?

    Be aware that some websites sell Swiss Grade-1 replicas, they make it pretty much 99% exact everything that not even jewellers can tell the difference..Pretty much only way to tell is to open up the back and check inside!

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    Re: How do ya spot a fake?

    Quote Originally Posted by markflorida View Post
    Hi Mark
    Thats a good offer, anything to try and stamp out fakes is great.
    HOWEVER BEWARE You purchased an illegal item and imported it.
    Did you know this: May 10th 2007 Mike Korpi from Portland Orgean came back from China with 8 fake Rolex watches. he paid $14.40 each, however when US customs found them he was fined $55,300. This was said to be the value of the counterfiet goods. Mike Korpi said they where for his children and grandchildren. Rolex can sue and demand $100,000 for each watch if they wanted. I dont think they will, but either way this should be a lesson to all.
    im sorry but thats all rumor. for 1 i am in the navy and brought it back through US customs just fine with no problem. and 2, they are sold online from the US to the US every day.


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    Yep, fakes are fine. hehe. Sold on line every day. Cool. Proceeds support criminal and terrorist groups. Great. Cause air craft accidents. Terrific. Poison our kids. Super. Cause needless deaths. Just what the doctor ordered.

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    July 26, 2007
    Fake aircraft parts dealers arrested in Russia

    Police in Russia's Yaroslavl region have arrested a group making fake aircraft parts. The gang were selling the engine components as spares to Russian and foreign airlines.

    The six men are either former or current employees of Russia's biggest jet-engine maker - the Saturn aviation plant near Yaroslavl. They were arrested as they attempted to sell counterfeit products worth more than $ US 140,000.

    “The men have been stealing components from the Saturn aviation plant, which they then used to manufacture spare parts for planes. They placed identification numbers on them and produced fake documents to sell them,” explained Ruslan Shihmagomedov from the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs.

    The gang used the stolen components to make engine parts for TU-154 passenger jets and IL-76 cargo planes. Authorities say over the past three years counterfeit parts have been sold through a chain of middlemen to Russian and foreign airlines. But they have yet to establish which airlines purchased them.

    According to the Aviation Safety Network, Russia has one of the worst flight safety records in the world.

    "Previously-used parts are often refurbished, repackaged, and sold to other airlines. People are ready to do just about anything for money. But they forget that there are people who fly on these planes - friends, relatives, those close to us," noted Magomed Toboev, flight expert.

    Prosecutors and government officials are now turning the spotlight onto the state of Russia's aviation industry after a high number of domestic crashes last year.

    Aviation experts say the sale of such counterfeit products poses a serious threat to air passengers. And they are calling for tighter control on the supply of plane parts.

    Meanwhile, a criminal investigation is being held, with police trying to track down other counterfeit parts and destroy them.

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    August 03, 2007
    Counterfeit goods fund terrorism?

    With the prevalance of counterfeit goods available on market stalls and on the internet, the global scale of intellectual property crime has soared. But would consumers be as comfortable with their purchases, if they knew they could be funding terrorist activities?

    Hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of seized counterfeit goods. And this is just a drop in the ocean in the global network of intellectual property crime. A world which inflitrates the lives of millions of people every day.

    Sue Jones, Head of Trading Standards, Westminster Council, London says, ''The types of goods we're seizing may change but the problem is fairly consistent. But what we are looking at now is extra weapons against the counterfeiters through seizing their actually earnings, the proceeds of their criminality.''

    Their criminality is partly driven by society's insatiable desire for luxury goods.

    A desire once constricted by price, now available to all willing to indulge in an illegal, and in all probability, fleeting purchase for the thrill of a huge cost saving.

    Over 3 million people in the UK bought a counterfeit luxury items last year from one of the top ten luxury brands. One of the reasons consumers are spending more on counterfeit goods is because it seems to have become socially acceptable. But according to a recent survey, almost 80 percent of consumers would be deterred, if they knew sales partially help to fund criminal activity.
    Simon Tracey, Head of Intellectual Property and Brands, Davenport Lyons said, "There have been links for example between the bombings in Madrid and those who were involved in the bombings themselves and the sale of fakes. Substantial sums have been made by one of the individuals involved in those bombings and the movement of fake goods.''

    Links between counterfeiting and the funding of organised crime have been confirmed by the Anti-Counterfeiting group, which campaigns against the trade of fake goods. It cites reports by Interpol which finds clear links between counterfeiting and terrorist cells in the Middle East, Europe and Latin America. But it's a problem which cannot only be tackled by legislation. Consumers need to be aware they play in a part in an illegal activity, which however small, has much wider repercussions.

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    Re: How do ya spot a fake?

    Cheap fakes are usually fairly easy to spot, it's the high end fakes that are more difficult. However, there are quite a few serious forums dedicated to the pursuit of the perfect fake and, although I don't think it would be proper for me to name these sites here, I will happily admit that I visit them frequently, particularly when I am considering a new watch.

    The members on these sites are fanatical about the slightest difference between original and fake and it is usually quite easy to find a detailed list for any watch. If it's not available, then just ask and you will usually get all the info you need. The members are also very particular about who they buy from and there is actually only a small number of 'reputable' dealers. These usually have their own web sites where you can view most of the good fakes available and the pictures are of the actual fakes, not the real deal.

    One thing that is often overlooked is that it is not in the interests of the fake producer to provide the 'perfect' fake.... making each successive generation slightly better than the last but still with some minor but irritating flaw keeps the fanatics biting so there is usually always something that will give a fake away, even the best ones.

    Interestingly, a large number of the members who frequent these sites can (and usually do) afford the real thing but just get a kick out of searching for the perfect copy. Each to their own I guess.

    Anyway, I'd recommend everyone to search these sites out and do some reading.. it has saved me from making some big mistakes.
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    Re: How do ya spot a fake?

    cizkd anyone help me with this one ? Fake or no?I belive it is a fake beacuse the metal is is looking weird


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    Thumbs Down Of course it's a fake. Steer well clear of this one...

    Quote Originally Posted by Breitling fan View Post
    cizkd anyone help me with this one ? Fake or no?I belive it is a fake beacuse the metal is is looking weird[/IMG]
    It isn't just the metal looking weird. Stop in at any Breitling authorized dealer or contact Breitling USA and ask for a Bentley for Breitling catalogue. You won't find a watch which looks like this monstrosity.
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    Re: How do ya spot a fake?

    In my local pub the other night, a guy tried to sell me these at a cost of £60.00 each.

    Apologies for the picture quality, I had to use my phone.......





    Told him I would swap him my EM for his two. NO DEAL!
    I was suprised too!



    Oh, and not sure if you can tell from the poor quality of the pictures, but apart from their blatant fakness, the second hands are on upside down....hence the B on the bottom of the second hand, is back to front! Quality!!!


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    Re: How do ya spot a fake?

    I am wondering if the fake Breitlings comes with the certificate and stamped with the matching serial number.
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