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    Re: LACO Pilot (Forum Project) - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Paulo View Post
    Looking at this page http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/ I see the Stowa has a real onion crown, but the Laco isn't like that, something like a top flatened onion or tronco-conic, much more similar to the one Laco is proposing than the Stowa's onion style you are requesting. The difference becomes obvious when you see it side to side.
    This is indeed the case, but the question is whether a historically accurate crown is
    (a) feasible at all, and
    (b) would make the watch less wearable.

    With all the enthusiasm for this watch project, let us not forget that we are not involved in making a recreation of the original B-Uhr (especially as the 55mm Laco replica is available). We are making a budget-oriented special edition making use of existing parts, with a stripped automatic movement that is nowhere near the original movement of the watch, a special caseback etc.

    Personally, I think the question of a "FL 23883" on the side of the case at 9 o'clock would contribute much more to the watch, and the special edition, than a stem crown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader View Post
    This is indeed the case, but the question is whether a historically accurate crown is
    (a) feasible at all, and
    (b) would make the watch less wearable.

    With all the enthusiasm for this watch project, let us not forget that we are not involved in making a recreation of the original B-Uhr (especially as the 55mm Laco replica is available). We are making a budget-oriented special edition making use of existing parts, with a stripped automatic movement that is nowhere near the original movement of the watch, a special caseback etc.

    Personally, I think the question of a "FL 23883" on the side of the case at 9 o'clock would contribute much more to the watch, and the special edition, than a stem crown.
    Martin, I don't understand your remark to my post (if my post wasn't quoted I would have considered it an answer to a different post in the thread), as I'm saying, well at least I'm trying to say, that the crown Laco shown in the mock-up is much more close to the original than a onion crown and I support that design.
    Last edited by Paulo; May 1st, 2008 at 20:14.

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    Re: LACO Pilot (Forum Project) - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Paulo View Post
    Martin, I don't understand your remark to my post (if my post wasn't quoted I would have considered it an answer to a different post in the thread), as I'm saying that the crown Laco shown in the mock-up is much more close to the original than a onion crown and I support that design.
    I was mis-using your text indeed, Paulo. :oops:

    Actually I, too, like the crown which Laco suggested in the mock-up as it preserves the original shape, minus the stem ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader View Post
    I was mis-using your text indeed, Paulo. :oops:

    Actually I, too, like the crown which Laco suggested in the mock-up as it preserves the original shape, minus the stem ...
    And that minus (the absence of the stem) is a great plus IMO too!
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    Re: LACO Pilot (Forum Project) - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by hotnerd View Post
    I have also sent the request for fatter minute hand but due to holiday we will hear back from Laco tomorrow.
    Or even the beginning of next week - many people in Germany take Friday after a public holiday off to have a looooooooong weekend.
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    Re: LACO Pilot (Forum Project) - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader View Post
    Personally, I think the question of a "FL 23883" on the side of the case at 9 o'clock would contribute much more to the watch, and the special edition, than a stem crown.
    !f it´s possible, so it would be a nice option!

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    Re: LACO Pilot (Forum Project) - Update

    You all know, if the crown is not a "true" replica of the 40 ies Laco crown, nobody except us will know! The latest crown design are not to bad!
    Greetings Janne

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    Re: LACO Pilot (Forum Project) - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Paulo View Post
    Looking at this page http://www.qahill.com/tz/b-uhr/ I see the Stowa has a real symetrical onion crown, but Laco's isn't like that, something like a top flatened onion or tronco-conic, not symetrical at all.

    IMO it's much more similar to the one Laco is proposing than the Stowa's onion style you are requesting. The difference becomes obvious when you see it side to side.

    Hello Paulo. I think you and I are very close to describing the same crown. I do understand your exception to my reference to symetrical. Earlier, there was a reference to Taurus shape (triangular like a bulls head in profile). So I was trying to describe a shape with less anglearity to it than a triangle and I used "symetrical". My description was meant to leave room for the shape we have been seeing in the various pictures posted in this thread and the Stowa/Wempe shape, if that would have matched better with the group sensibilities.

    What do you think about just taking the consistent LACO B-Uhr crown we see over and over in these pages, and moving it up against the case so we don't all go around with bruised up wrists? Laco should have this profile, (they probably have many size versions of it.)

    When I look at the proposed crown pictured below, I see a crown I have never seen before; it has sharper edges overall and a counter bore at the end resulting in a sharp edge right where I don't think we want one or have ever seen one before. I just think we can do better by using a crown shape that we recognize as WW2 in origin. I'm just trying to get the "best" crown we can get here in the "design time" for this great watch.
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    Re: LACO Pilot (Forum Project) - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by BRUCE
    What do you think about just taking the consistent LACO B-Uhr crown we see over and over in these pages, and moving it up against the case so we don't all go around with bruised up wrists? Laco should have this profile, (they probably have many size versions of it.)
    I fully agree with you Bruce.
    It's just that to me the proposed crown looks like the normal Laco profile, just roughly photoshoped, reason why it seems to have sharper edges (and without stem, as most of us prefer).
    Still, I'd like to see a photo of the specimen.
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    Re: LACO Pilot (Forum Project) - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Paulo View Post
    I fully agree with you Bruce.
    It's just that to me the proposed crown looks like the normal Laco profile, just roughly photoshoped, reason why it seems to have sharper edges (and without stem, as most of us prefer).
    Still, I'd like to see a photo of the specimen.
    I share your interest in the details of a Laco crown for this watch. I guess at this point we wait.

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