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    Exclamation ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE

    How to AVOID SCAMS



    • AS A BUYER
      • ∑ Ask for clear pictures with a specific time or object included.
      • ∑ Ask for the sellers address. Check www.anywho.com to find out if they live where they say they live.
      • ∑ Get their home phone number. Use www.anywho.com and do a reverse lookup to see if the phone is registered in their name.
      • ∑ Call them and talk to them about the watch.
      • ∑ Donít get too excited if you see a great watch at a ridiculously cheap price. It may be a scam.
      • ∑ Be vigilant with new members.
      • ∑ I recommend paying with PayPal using a credit card. It provides an extra layer of protection as long as you don't use the "gift/friends and family" option.
      • ∑ Only use bank wire or certified check if you completely trust the seller. Even then, it is a risk.
      • ∑ Be specific about which shipping method will be used and ask for the tracking number.
      • ∑ Donít ask for the seller to do anything illegal (i.e. reduce value for customs reasons)
      • ∑ Google the memberís username and real name online. See what comes up.
      • ∑ Pay for insurance on every watch.
      • ∑ New sellers should comply with all reasonable requests from you (pictures, phone call, etc). If they donít, walk away. If you donít feel comfortable about something, walk away.
      • DO NOT list your email address in your WTB, WTT, or in your sales post and don't take communication to email, if a perspective buyer is found to be a scammer and banned you will not know it.
      • Never sign into a web site that is sent to you by a stranger, even if it looks like WatchUSeek, it could be a phishing site designed to steal your username and password.



      AS A SELLER∑ Ask for references.
    • Check those references. They will give you their best references. Make an inquiry post asking about them.
    • If they give you their EBay username as a reference, contact them through the EBay system and ask them if they are the same person.
    • Check the forums to see what prior deals have looked like for your buyer.
    • Google the username and email address of the buyer. See what comes up.
    • Accept whatever payment you are comfortable with
    • Know all shipping rules if you are shipping internationally.
    • Ask the buyer for their home phone number and call and talk to them. Use www.anywho.com and do a reverse lookup to see if the phone is registered in their name.
    • Check www.anywho.com to find out if they live where they say they live.
    • Donít reduce the value on an international shipment. It may cause you problems at some point. It also may cost you money.
    • Ship the item using a method that allows for insurance, tracking and signature delivery confirmation.
    • Be vigilant with new users.
    • Make sure you indicate whether or not you will refund shipping if a return happens.
    • If someone contacts you about a WTB you have, ask for pictures of that watch with their name written on a piece of paper and the watch near it.
    • DO NOT take communication to email, if the seller is found to be a scammer and banned you will not know it.
    • If the perspective buyer sends you a link that requires you to sign into WatchUSeek don't do it, it's most likely a phishing site designed to steal your username and password.
    • If you feel uncomfortable ask a Moderator or the Admin.
    • If you ever feel uncomfortable just walk away!





    Last edited by CMSgt Bo; 21 Hours Ago at 07:22.
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    Re: ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE August 17 ! !

    http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/jag/jagpage.htm

    I would not hesitate to contact the FBI on this matter!

    They can find this person or group and prosecute across international borders...and since it appears that there is at leat 10,000 in stolen watches, they will at least take some information.

    The scuzball(s) may be operating as a group since they know we trade here on the board.

    This may or may not be terrorist linked ...

    Personally, I smell something wrong....

    Right after 9-11, I caught some crap on an auction site...reported it...and the rest was in the papers.

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    Re: ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE August 17 ! !

    My recent unfortunate encounter.

    Rolexos - DO NOT DEAL - NON SHIPMENT

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    Re: ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE November 20 ! !

    You may also want to steer clear of Chesterdogg who recently was banned from another forum for theft.

    http://www.watchgeeks.net/viewtopic....r=asc&&start=0

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    Re: ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE November 20 ! !


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    Re: ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE November 20 ! !

    Update on a scammer from this site... Jessop1979

    http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=166114&highlight=jessop

    UPDATE---
    http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/article/20090322/NEWS01/903220314&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL


    Please be advised NOT to do business with:

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    Re: ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE

    Hey guys. I just got scammed too. I thought I checked things out alright, but obviously not.

    I bought what I thought was a quartz Omega Aqua Terra, you can see the post here F/s OMEGA SEAMASTER AQUA TERRA

    It was from a user named Navidzaro - He went by the name Adam Veenstra, in Ottawa, Canada. Obviously, I wish I had read this thread earlier.

    So long story short. I paid with my paypal balance. Today I received, not a watch, but a tattered box containing a broken portable TV, a pack of cards, and a case for a flash memory card.

    I am pissed, but I don't think there's anything I can do. Any recommendations?

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    Lightbulb Re: ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE

    Wow, I did not realize so many people were getting scammed by Canadians.
    I'm a Canadian, and that troubles me greatly.

    The first word that popped into my mind is "escrow", I actually did not know exactly what that means but here's an interesting site:

    www.escrow.com

    How does it work?

    1. Buyer and Seller Agree to Terms
      Both parties agree to terms of the transaction, which includes a description of the merchandise, sale price, number of days for the Buyer's inspection, and any shipping information.
    2. Buyer Pays Escrow.com
      The Buyer submits an available payment option. Escrow.com verifies the payment. Processing time varies by payment method.
    3. Seller Ships Merchandise
      Upon payment verification, the Seller is authorized to ship merchandise and submit tracking information. Escrow.com verifies that the Buyer receives the shipment.
    4. Buyer Accepts the Merchandise
      The Buyer has a set number of days for an inspection and the option to accept or reject the merchandise. For more information, FAQs - Return Questions.
    5. Escrow.com Pays the Seller
      Escrow.com pays the Seller by the method selected by the Seller. The transaction is complete.

    What are the benefits?
    Escrow.com, an accredited escrow company, acts as a secure third party to protect the Buyer and Seller.
    How Buyers are protected:

    • Escrow.com tracks the shipped merchandise and verifies it was delivered.
    • The Seller isn't paid until the Buyer accepts the merchandise, or the inspection period expires.

    How Sellers are protected:

    • Escrow.com confirms when the Buyer receives merchandise.
    • The Seller is authorized to ship only after Escrow.com verifies good funds.


    Fee calculator:
    https://www.escrow.com/support/calculator.asp

    $500 = $25 fee
    $2000 = $65 fee


    Here's the way I would do it, if I ever had a valuable watch to sell ()
    I'd agree to the price, and then say "woah! I'm going to use Escrow service and it's going to cost $65 on our $2k sale. You pay $32.50 and I'll pay $32.50. I get guaranteed payment, you get a guaranteed inspection period to confirm the watch is what you want.
    And if you don't like that, then I'll go deal with somebody else....


    Say speaking of which, are there any better deals on escrow services?
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    Re: ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE

    Hi All Decent members @ WUS,

    I would like to make a shoutout to look for any person here or know of any person here who has recently bidded and won in ebay for a Black Spots & Master Blue Frogman. Seller ID is Redhotz11 (email: izoetrope@gmail.com).

    Bids for these items would have closed on 22/23rd May 2009. I believe these winners MAY be having problems with the respective items but I would not say more here until the matter has concluded (soon).

    Those that fit the bill above OR knows anyone that could be, please PM me and I will share with you more information (moderators included so to prove that I have a valid reason to post this). Thanks guys for the assistance.

    Sincerely,
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    Re: ** warning ** scammers alert ** UPDATE

    Nickname Juanga on time zone forum
    Juan christian Lafi from spain.
    One big scammer.....donīt ever do business with him!!
    He stole my money.

    Regards
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