How to help AVOID being scammed

[Ernie Romers]

Please be advised NOT to do business with:

JustinWB
watchlover1009
TonyM77
ymcsky
Golfy
vintager
soloX
Mrgolfwatch
Oceanred
Bigwatch
Toofast
gundawn
Seawatch
Emuffin
Heavywatch
Simwatch
NiceWatch
RGouch
TikTakTok
watchme2
reneeg
rodx
Chris65
F3RR3T
Beazy
omegadreamer
lovOmega
SgtInArms
sgtatarms
fireweight
patrkli
papermill

Mike Watson mw152030@blumail.org

[ringsof5]

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/jag/jagpage.htm

I would not hesitate to contact the FBI on this matter!

They can find this person or group and prosecute across international borders...and since it appears that there is at leat 10,000 in stolen watches, they will at least take some information.

The scuzball(s) may be operating as a group since they know we trade here on the board.

This may or may not be terrorist linked ...

Personally, I smell something wrong....

Right after 9-11, I caught some crap on an auction site...reported it...and the rest was in the papers.

ringsof5

[snoballz]

My recent unfortunate encounter.

Rolexos - DO NOT DEAL - NON SHIPMENT

[koimaster]

You may also want to steer clear of Chesterdogg who recently was banned from another forum for theft.

http://www.watchgeeks.net/viewtopic....r=asc&&start=0

[sl8763]

It seems that 316L should also be on this list.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f63/ouch-ive-been-scammed-hector-orozco-316l-pete-oro-223127.html#post1593781

[Ernie Romers]

Update on a scammer from this site... Jessop1979

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=166114&highlight=jessop

UPDATE---
http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/article/20090322/NEWS01/903220314&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

[schmuckguy]

Hey guys. I just got scammed too. I thought I checked things out alright, but obviously not.

I bought what I thought was a quartz Omega Aqua Terra, you can see the post here F/s OMEGA SEAMASTER AQUA TERRA

It was from a user named Navidzaro - He went by the name Adam Veenstra, in Ottawa, Canada. Obviously, I wish I had read this thread earlier.

So long story short. I paid with my paypal balance. Today I received, not a watch, but a tattered box containing a broken portable TV, a pack of cards, and a case for a flash memory card.

I am pissed, but I don't think there's anything I can do. Any recommendations?

[Cappy]

Wow, I did not realize so many people were getting scammed by Canadians.
I'm a Canadian, and that troubles me greatly.

The first word that popped into my mind is "escrow", I actually did not know exactly what that means but here's an interesting site:

www.escrow.com

How does it work?

1. Buyer and Seller Agree to Terms
   Both parties agree to terms of the transaction, which includes a description of the merchandise, sale price, number of days for the Buyer's inspection, and any shipping information.
2. Buyer Pays Escrow.com
   The Buyer submits an available payment option. Escrow.com verifies the payment. Processing time varies by payment method.
3. Seller Ships Merchandise
   Upon payment verification, the Seller is authorized to ship merchandise and submit tracking information. Escrow.com verifies that the Buyer receives the shipment.
4. Buyer Accepts the Merchandise
   The Buyer has a set number of days for an inspection and the option to accept or reject the merchandise. For more information, FAQs - Return Questions.
5. Escrow.com Pays the Seller
   Escrow.com pays the Seller by the method selected by the Seller. The transaction is complete.

What are the benefits?
Escrow.com, an accredited escrow company, acts as a secure third party to protect the Buyer and Seller.
How Buyers are protected:

• Escrow.com tracks the shipped merchandise and verifies it was delivered.
• The Seller isn't paid until the Buyer accepts the merchandise, or the inspection period expires.

How Sellers are protected:

• Escrow.com confirms when the Buyer receives merchandise.
• The Seller is authorized to ship only after Escrow.com verifies good funds.

Fee calculator:
https://www.escrow.com/support/calculator.asp

$500 = $25 fee
$2000 = $65 fee


Here's the way I would do it, if I ever had a valuable watch to sell ()
I'd agree to the price, and then say "woah! I'm going to use Escrow service and it's going to cost $65 on our $2k sale. You pay $32.50 and I'll pay $32.50. I get guaranteed payment, you get a guaranteed inspection period to confirm the watch is what you want.
And if you don't like that, then I'll go deal with somebody else....


Say speaking of which, are there any better deals on escrow services?

[eonianaerial]

Hi All Decent members @ WUS,

I would like to make a shoutout to look for any person here or know of any person here who has recently bidded and won in ebay for a Black Spots & Master Blue Frogman. Seller ID is Redhotz11 (email: izoetrope@gmail.com).

Bids for these items would have closed on 22/23rd May 2009. I believe these winners MAY be having problems with the respective items but I would not say more here until the matter has concluded (soon).

Those that fit the bill above OR knows anyone that could be, please PM me and I will share with you more information (moderators included so to prove that I have a valid reason to post this). Thanks guys for the assistance.

Sincerely,
EA

[supaplex]

Nickname Juanga on time zone forum
Juan christian Lafi from spain.
One big scammer.....don´t ever do business with him!!
He stole my money.

Regards
Supaplex