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    Project 300: Dial and case design

    August 18, 2011: Size question and discussion.

    Background information

    The original size advertised was:

    Diameter: 41.75-42.00 mm
    Length (end of lug to lug): 47.50mm

    These original specifications were based on some old measurements that I had taken from a military issue Seamaster 300 that I owned and sold long ago. The diameter I have listed above may have been based on a diagonal measurement of the case from 2 pm to 8 pm, which is my best guess as to explain the discrepancy with the figures listed below.

    Based on a closer study the civilian Watchco SM300 that I bought as a reference for this project the SM300 watch measured the following:

    Diameter: 40.40 mm
    Length (end of lug to lug): 47.95 mm

    The case I am using is one with an SLN insert and not a 60/70s case body, or at least not a 60/70s bezel, which featured tritium. As I reviewed this sample I felt that the watch should be closer to the 42.00 mm in diameter originally advertised in the pre-order. However based on the measurements of the sample watch this would mean that the watch should be increased in length to 50.00 mm to keep the proportions of the watch the same.

    After feedback received from a number of forumers and customers we are here to revisit my decision. We have three sizes we can choose from:

    Size: A
    Diameter: 42.00 mm
    Length (end of lug to lug): 49.50 - 50.00 mm

    Size: B
    Diameter: 41.75 mm
    Length (end of lug to lug): 49.00 - 49.55 mm

    Size: C
    Diameter: 41.25 mm
    Length (end of lug to lug): 48.50 - 48.95 mm

    I will need a small amount of wiggle room on the length to get the proportions of the case just right.

    First let me know what you guys think of the options. Assuming the options are "reasonable" I will put together two surveys. One for the Plankowners, which will be done in private, and one for everyone else interested in the project, which I will post on WUS. The one option that is off the table would be to keep the watch exactly the same as the original. The watch at the very least needs to be distinguishable from the original piece by size so as to prevent more fake military SM300s from showing up on the market.
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    Re: Project 300: Dial and case design

    Now open for discussion

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    Re: Project 300: Dial and case design

    Blessed / cursed with a slim wrist, I would prefer the smaller size. The diameter of 42 mm is not so much the problem, but the 50 mm length is.
    Hence, my choice for option C:
    Diameter: 41.25 mm
    Length (end of lug to lug): 48.50 - 48.95 mm

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    Re: Project 300: Dial and case design

    Quote Originally Posted by MHe225 View Post
    Blessed / cursed with a slim wrist, I would prefer the smaller size. The diameter of 42 mm is not so much the problem, but the 50 mm length is.
    Hence, my choice for option C:
    Diameter: 41.25 mm
    Length (end of lug to lug): 48.50 - 48.95 mm

    RonB
    Thanks for the input Ron. Please note that we are just determining whether the options for size currently cover the range options that people were considering.

    I just wanted to make that clear so that we get your input on the survey I will be e-mailing to Plankowners later. That is where the votes will count for real.

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    Re: Project 300: Dial and case design

    That's understood, Bill. The range of all 3 options is fine with me and very much in line with what I was expecting / hoping for. I should have said that explicitly, but I guess I was to eager to get my personal preference in I will repeat the same once I receive the survey.

    Looking forward to seeing this one take shape

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    Re: Project 300: Dial and case design

    Bill,
    Thank you for the update. I will wait for my survey. Guys take some time to think about how the watch is going to wear. The chunky modern divers have high lugs and tend to gap on my 6.75 wrists while my Seiko 6139 helmet melts right into it. I think this case will be in the middle. And while 50mm is a larger watch it should wear a bit smaller. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Re: Project 300: Dial and case design

    I would still prefer an even smaller lug to lug length due to my 17.5cm wrist, but if there is no choice to create that option i would vote C.

    btw: what is a SLN insert? google didnt help..
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    Re: Project 300: Dial and case design

    A Speedmaster Pro is my biggest watch so size C would be most soothing. I'm having uneasy visions of the 300 ending up on the WUS sales forum because it's too big for my 6.75" (on a good day) wrist:

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    Re: Project 300: Dial and case design

    I know MKII has often been criticized for it lack of consumer communication. I think that this sticky shows the opposite. Name me one (other) watchmaker that will discuss the actual size of the watch-to-be with the customers before starting the working on the final design. Thanks Bill!

    I think that all things said in other posting apply for me as well. I'll will wait for the plankowner's email from Bill.

    (Nearly Friday afternoon overhere, so: have a great weekend!)

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    Re: Project 300: Dial and case design

    Quote Originally Posted by Thieuster View Post
    I know MKII has often been criticized for it lack of consumer communication. I think that this sticky shows the opposite. Name me one (other) watchmaker that will discuss the actual size of the watch-to-be with the customers before starting the working on the final design. Thanks Bill!

    I think that all things said in other posting apply for me as well. I'll will wait for the plankowner's email from Bill.

    (Nearly Friday afternoon overhere, so: have a great weekend!)

    Menno
    well, my belief is that if another watchmaker created a pre-paid watch, then all the specs would be approved beforehand, or he wouldnt get anyone to prepay. since the original specs changed considerably, I dont see this as an optional extra (setting up this sticky) but more as a must..
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