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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cpotters View Post
    I cannot believe that just the globe logo would be a problem, because:

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    And so on......these are all just generic globes, hinted at with latitude and longitude lines. HOWEVER, the Pan Am Globe is very different:

    http://www.bynonartservices.com/mark...am_logosvg.png

    much more stylized, with curved latitudes swinging from the equator and a single longitude line in the center. In other words, the less stylized, the better.

    BTW, I'll bet you twenty bucks that the Pan Am typeface in the globe is also copyright protected.
    I don't disagree but the designs that have come forth so far stray too close to the PanAm globe. The details will make the difference.

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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Reintitan View Post
    Awesome Bill. That white dial really pops with the gold. May I request that for both the black and white dials, can we get the font "KEY WEST - GMT" to be in red? The earliest 6542s had their "GMT-Master" writing in red. Very rare.
    Well remind me about this detail later. I think it would be cool on the Black dial. May be sticking with the gold on the white though. I think the red lettering might stand out too much on the white dial.
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yao View Post
    Well remind me about this detail later. I think it would be cool on the Black dial. May be sticking with the gold on the white though. I think the red lettering might stand out too much on the white dial.
    Just for reference, there is a brand out there, named after a certain Greek letter, that has a white face GMT with black outlined indices, a red-tipped second hand, and a small amount of red printing on the dial. Here's a link to a pic, posted elsewhere on WUS (not my pic, credit to AtlantaDave). This is purely to help solidify mental images for some of us concerning design ideas that have been brought up recently.

    (Bill/Mods, please remove this post if it pushes the boundaries of any rules. Thanks.)
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Thenk you for the responses Bill.


    Thanks for the link JCW1980.

    I see where the black indices do look a little "printed". As for the red lettering and red tipped seconds hand they look nice but I am starting to think all of that red is getting a little too cartoonish. I am not sure what the process is that Bill uses to create the dials and I do not wish to discuss it since it is his business. I do wonder if adding another color would increase cost and possible scrap rate of the dials. Adding another color to the dial is not a great concern of mine after seeing that link.

    I am not sure I would fight either way on it. I am more concerned with the lume choice on the white dial.

    I also do not care if Bill "should" be OK with case back designs. I would rather have a case back that is clear and free of all possible problems.

    PS: Root Beer dial with gilt would be iconic. Just sayin'.
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yao View Post
    Well remind me about this detail later. I think it would be cool on the Black dial. May be sticking with the gold on the white though. I think the red lettering might stand out too much on the white dial.
    I love the gilt/White. I asked about this months and months ago, but lots of folks were not pleased with the idea, as many said the gilt would sort of get "lost" on the white dial. I disagree. I believe using C3 would give the indices quite a bit of color difference which with the gold surrounds and raised lume would look awsome.I als agree that this would give the watch a lot more polished "Dressed up" look. There are lots of white dial watches with black lettering around, I agree that thye don't look as nice as the White/Gilt.
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    What I'm really liking about all this, is it's starting to look like it's getting past the conceptual, lets talk about it stage, to the Hey, here's what it's going to look like lets "get er done" stage.
    Looking at the White dialed, Greek letter named, watch in the postabove, I don't like several thingsw about it. One the White lume is "lost on the dial, the black outlines don't do anything for me, and the red lettered GMT sort of looks like and afterthought. I'm really a purist, and my feelings are if it's going to be a homage to the 6542, lets make it as close as possible without running headlong into copyright problems. the red GMT hand is all the red it needs, lettering in gilt like the Kingston is fine with me. I love the idea of a Globe engraved on the back, but the one that was shown with a Pan Am globe with MKII in the center is probably going to cause a problem with the Pan AM copyright holders.
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yao View Post
    I don't disagree but the designs that have come forth so far stray too close to the PanAm globe. The details will make the difference.
    I agree. I was actually thinking that a caseback having a globe with the continents outlined could look quite spectacular.

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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    ...I'm really a purist, and my feelings are if it's going to be a homage to the 6542, lets make it as close as possible without running headlong into copyright problems. the red GMT hand is all the red it needs, lettering in gilt like the Kingston is fine with me. ...
    The more I think about the extra red details (tipped seconds, printing) the more I agree with Arthur. The purist, homage approach is best; it's going to have plenty of red between the GMT hand and the pepsi or coke bezel insert...don't want to over do it.

    My humble opinion.
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JCW1980 View Post
    The more I think about the extra red details (tipped seconds, printing) the more I agree with Arthur. The purist, homage approach is best; it's going to have plenty of red between the GMT hand and the pepsi or coke bezel insert...don't want to over do it.

    My humble opinion.
    I agree also, with all of the comments above from Bill, Arthur and JCW1980. I proposed the MKII/Globe engraved case back but if it causes problems, we should do something different. I think a globe engraving of some sort on the case back would add a lot to the project, and this could be done without specific design reference to the original watch.

    I agree with Arthur's comments on the white dial and the lume completely. The gilt-and-white dial is going to prove to be a spectacular achievement, and C3 lume would help, by providing visual differentiation or some degree of contrast between the hour markers and the white of the dial; more so than would BGW9, in my humble opinion.

    -My proposals are meant only to stimulate discussion and bring forth suggestions from all of the participants here - There is much more opportunity for interesting and out-of-the-box good ideas from this bunch than many of the corporate board rooms and executive planning sessions in most companies, I would guess.

    -And I appreciate it all-

    -My Best to All.....Carry On,Gentlemen.
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Don't know about the C3 lume. I'm afraid that there would be too much going on with the colour palette: bezel red/blue, 24hr hand red, hour markers/hands gold (yellow) and the greenish lume of C3. Would it still look balanced, I'm not sure. But with BGW9 the hour markers might not be visible at a glance.

    But do we know if the white dial is matt or glossy? If glossy then the matt lume could make enough contrast to the dial for easy reading. Another option is to use aged lume. The 'age' could be very mild and only to add contrast to the white dial. The advantage of age lume for me is the brownish/yellowish tint compared to green of C3. Still the age lume would have weak lume power but I can live with that.

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