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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    This evening I was flipping through my copy of Vintage Rolex Sports Models (Skeet & Urul, Ed.3, pg.61 - for those of you who have a copy and want to follow along ) and ran across something interesting.

    Apparently the cyclops was an optional feature rather than standard on the GMT Master 6542 until the early 60's. Don't know if that'll make any of you feel better about the probability of not having a cyclops on the Key West, but I thought it was worth mentioning. That's also the first time I've heard of an "option" being available on a Rolex (short of buying a different bracelet).

    This book uses computer mockup dials on photographed cases (the effect is pretty realistic) for a visual of each variation, so there's a picture here that pretty much looks like what I imagine the black dial Key West will look like: gilt hands/indices/lume-surrounds, small GMT triangle, red date, no CG, no cyclops. I'm tempted to take a picture and post it, but I don't want to possibly run afoul of any forum copyright related rules. Here's a link to a pic I was able to find of one sans cyclops (sorry, it's a rough example...watch has got some serious character, but should give you an idea).

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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Here's your image, JCW1980...

    Its what I would want for a GMT...

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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    I think I am liking the darker blue and red bezel a lot more now.

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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by White Tuna View Post
    I think I am liking the darker blue and red bezel a lot more now.





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    Quote Originally Posted by STEELINOX View Post
    Its what I would want for a GMT...
    Originally I was dead set on the white dial, but over the last year of thinking about this project, I've become more and more unsure. I think once it's time to decide, I'm going to be leaning toward the black dial + pepsi bezel too. This pic is pretty dead on.

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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Its going to be even harder then choosing my Kingston setup! Hehe

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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    I wouldn't put too much credence in Skeet & Urul!! If you ask most of the Vintage Rolex guys such as some of those over on the Vintage Rolex Forum, they will all pretty much agree that Vintage Rolex Sport Models is filled with inaccuracies. I have one myself, and thought it was pretty darn good until I was severly chastised for quoting from the book!! I am and will always be a firm advocate of the cyclops. It makes the date much easier to read, especially for those of us with "old" eyes. Righht now as I type this, I'm wearing my old 1665 SeaDweller which doesn't have a cyclops, and the date is 2.5X smaller than my submariner or GMT, which makes it much harder to see especially in lower light situations.
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    I wouldn't put too much credence in Skeet & Urul!! If you ask most of the Vintage Rolex guys such as some of those over on the Vintage Rolex Forum, they will all pretty much agree that Vintage Rolex Sport Models is filled with inaccuracies. I have one myself, and thought it was pretty darn good until I was severly chastised for quoting from the book!! I am and will always be a firm advocate of the cyclops. It makes the date much easier to read, especially for those of us with "old" eyes. Righht now as I type this, I'm wearing my old 1665 SeaDweller which doesn't have a cyclops, and the date is 2.5X smaller than my submariner or GMT, which makes it much harder to see especially in lower light situations.
    I've worn this with 50 year old eyes without problem...


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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by STEELINOX View Post
    I've worn this with 50 year old eyes without problem...


    I can't dispute that some have and easier time with non-cyclops watches, My eyes are a few years older than yours(about 18) and I do have some problems with seeing smaller numbers. I do have several watches that don't have cyclops, Stingray, Kingston date, my SD,etc, so I do buy watches that don't have cyclops. My basic point is the Rolex GMT's which I believe the Key West is supposed to be a homage of , are all watches with cyclops. i would like to see the Key West kept as true to the original 6542 as possible without incurring the wrath of Rolex USA or SA. That's my only point.
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    I can't dispute that some have and easier time with non-cyclops watches, My eyes are a few years older than yours(about 18) and I do have some problems with seeing smaller numbers. I do have several watches that don't have cyclops, Stingray, Kingston date, my SD,etc, so I do buy watches that don't have cyclops. My basic point is the Rolex GMT's which I believe the Key West is supposed to be a homage of , are all watches with cyclops. i would like to see the Key West kept as true to the original 6542 as possible without incurring the wrath of Rolex USA or SA. That's my only point.
    Certainly a valid point and concern. I personally wouldn't mind it either way. I'm definitely buying one whatever happens.

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