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    worn bezel may not be so bad..

    I've just seen a 1988 black/red Rolex 16760 GMT Master II for sale at mwrforum (no connection:)
    I love, how the red bezel is slightly fading.. it's possibly the best Rolex I've ever seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwg View Post
    worn bezel may not be so bad..

    I've just seen a 1988 black/red Rolex 16760 GMT Master II for sale at mwrforum (no connection:)
    I love, how the red bezel is slightly fading.. it's possibly the best Rolex I've ever seen
    Faded inserts fetch a premium that's for sure.

    It's interesting, a lot of what people are asking for is artificial aging. That's what the brown tropical dials were too. We got pretty strong anti-patina opinions for the lume, but I think this should be on the table as well if we're talking about the other fake aging stuff...

    Here's a nice older GMT showing both faded insert and some nice patina on the lume.

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    Fwiw I don't think we should artificially age inserts and dials from the factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDude View Post
    Fwiw I don't think we should artificially age inserts and dials from the factory.
    agreed.. that would be a bit to much :) But it is an interesting topic - Pentax recently made a camera with brass body, where you can expect some patina and scratches soon.

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    I won't be surprised, if some watch manufacturer used a similar idea.
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    I have no problems with the "vintage" lume but I do not like the idea of an artificially distressed watch.

    But I really doubt Bill would do that anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Tuna View Post
    I have no problems with the "vintage" lume but I do not like the idea of an artificially distressed watch.

    But I really doubt Bill would do that anyway.
    I actually hate, what they did with the camera and do not support anything like that done to the GMT either. I feel there is too much "vintage" in the air lately.

    for me it's just about making things in a way, they would take the time nicely - like that gmt rolex above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwg View Post
    I actually hate, what they did with the camera and do not support anything like that done to the GMT either. I feel there is too much "vintage" in the air lately.

    for me it's just about making things in a way, they would take the time nicely - like that gmt rolex above.
    Patina should be the result of natural aging. buy a watch, wear the watch, you will get patina, not from bleaching an insert or putting a dial in an oven, but from wear, sun exposure and all the other things that cause a watch to "age"
    i totally agree, the emphasis on vintage, looking liker the watch had been dug up after being buried in a creek bed for 40 years doesn't turn me on at all. I'm not particulat about a watch looking like it has been in a safe for 40 years, but I would prefer that to the excess patina I see on a lot of watches. I probably won't live long enough to naturally age my Kingstons or Key West, but I'll pass them on and my son can carry on the process!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwg View Post
    I actually hate, what they did with the camera and do not support anything like that done to the GMT either. I feel there is too much "vintage" in the air lately.

    for me it's just about making things in a way, they would take the time nicely - like that gmt rolex above.
    When times get rough nostalgia sells. With the economy hopefully getting better the pre-distressed look will probably pass out of fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEELINOX View Post
    And what if that thin piece of metal also did double duty as an "aperture" for the luminous material that is applied directly to the main bezel ring...

    [The main bezel ring gets luminous paint applied directly to corresponding marker points...]

    The main bezel ring fully supports the insert assy and protects it too from lateral impacts...

    The thin piece of metal could be wire cut [edm] and windows for the markers cut during the same process, and later anodized, half red and half blue?

    Its then glued to the main bezel then on top of that the sapphire is UV glued to the thin piece of metal as well as opposite the leading edge [near coin edge] of the main bezel?

    I don't want to sound dismissive as I do appreciate the thought you have put into this. The real issue is space, there just isn't enough space available for this type of construction. I have an idea but I need to talk it over with one of my suppliers while I am Basel.
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    Re: Project GMT: Design thread

    Quote Originally Posted by curt941 View Post
    Bill, I understand what you're saying about the semi-supported bezel insert.

    You end up with a worn bezel like this one:

    What if you had a very thin piece of metal bonded to the underside of the insert post luming, this would serve to protect the paint on the bottom of the insert.
    The construction I have in mind would help protect the underside of the bezel but unfortunately I am not sure this specific idea would actually work given the space that is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Patina should be the result of natural aging. buy a watch, wear the watch, you will get patina
    I 100% agree. Patina is the result of a natural process. I hope and trust Bill will resist ANY artificial treatment of the watch.
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