Hamilton Pan Europ Relaunch 2012 Model

[Watchyman]

They shoud have a higher WR rating so they could be dive watches

[Robbyman]

Black dial does look the best from the two, but I prefer the 1971 in blue. I am not just saying that because I have one but it is just soo pretty on the eye. Even though, I may pick up another when I see them in the flesh.

Well done to Hamilton to test the water with the 1971 and having seen the great response followed up on the demand. They will sell loads of these news ones and they know it and the best of luck to them.

Also, forget about the 42m argument. I have 6.5 inch wrists and I fits great. I would never go for a PO 45.5 but the PE at 45 is perfect due to th compactness. Don't believe me? Just try one of the new ones when they are out.

[Perseus]

I'm pretty interested in the silver one, but I love the blue. I would have pulled the trigger but I'm a little nervous about the size so I don't want to buy it without trying it on first.

It reminds me a little of the Jack Heuer 80th birthday limited edition Carrera, which I love. Even if Hamilton charges $1,971 it's 60% less expensive and a more desirable movement, even if the Heuer has better looks.

[TGE]

It reminds me a little of the Jack Heuer 80th birthday limited edition Carrera, which I love. Even if Hamilton charges $1,971 it's 60% less expensive and a more desirable movement, even if the Heuer has better looks.

Funny, I thought the same thing! I really do like this silver dialed one.

[Perseus]

Funny, I thought the same thing! I really do like this silver dialed one.

I see SOOO much value in Hamilton I'm not sure I want to pay for the Tag. Maybe after seeing both watches in person. I also thought about painting the hands on the new Hamilton Jazzmaster Auto Chrono and put it on a rallye strap. Heck I could buy both the Jazzmaster and the Pan-Europ for the price of the Tag!


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[TGE]

I see SOOO much value in Hamilton I'm not sure I want to pay for the Tag. Maybe after seeing both watches in person. I also thought about painting the hands on the new Hamilton Jazzmaster Auto Chrono and put it on a rallye strap. Heck I could buy both the Jazzmaster and the Pan-Europ for the price of the Tag!


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I'd say definitely the TAG Chrono beats the Hammy Jazzmaster head-to-head, BUT when you put it that way I agree it's tough to pass up the two Hamiltons for the one TAG.

Obviously I love the Pan Europ and it's fairly close in my mind between that one alone and the Carrera anyway (I have the blue reissue and a Carrera CV2010 and I love both). Toss in that Jazzmaster....yeah I'd be happy with that pair.

[Perseus]

Obviously I love the Pan Europ and it's fairly close in my mind between that one alone and the Carrera anyway (I have the blue reissue and a Carrera CV2010 and I love both).

Hi TGE, how does the Pan Europ compare to the Carrera? I've heard people saying that the Pan Europ wears smaller than the 45mm suggests, do you agree? I love the look of the Pan Europ but I tend to prefer 42mm watches.

[TGE]

Hi TGE, how does the Pan Europ compare to the Carrera? I've heard people saying that the Pan Europ wears smaller than the 45mm suggests, do you agree? I love the look of the Pan Europ but I tend to prefer 42mm watches.

Definitely wears smaller than 45mm to me, which I think is mainly due to the short lugs. On the wrist it doesn't feel terribly different from the Carrera, maybe a shade bigger if anything. However, I believe it is about 1.5mm thinner than the Carrera.

I never thought I'd go above about 42mm myself, certainly 44mm maximum but only on a chunky dive watch, but this one just doesn't feel huge. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely a presence on the wrist and the color doesn't make it any quieter, but the measured size is misleading in my opinion.

[napel]

BUBBLES!!!!

[Perseus]

Thanks TGE. I can't wait until I can see the Pan Europ in the flesh. This will be my last chance for a spendy watch for awhile so I might just pull the plug on LE Carrera and save my allowance for a Hamilton.

Definitely wears smaller than 45mm to me, which I think is mainly due to the short lugs. On the wrist it doesn't feel terribly different from the Carrera, maybe a shade bigger if anything. However, I believe it is about 1.5mm thinner than the Carrera.

I never thought I'd go above about 42mm myself, certainly 44mm maximum but only on a chunky dive watch, but this one just doesn't feel huge. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely a presence on the wrist and the color doesn't make it any quieter, but the measured size is misleading in my opinion.