LACO Pilot B (Miyota Movement) Noisy Movement

[pavel36]

I recently acquitted a LACO Pilot B with the Miyota movement from the sales forum, and I am more than happy about the quality of the watch. It keeps great time (+sub 10 seconds daily) and I think it looks awesome. However, I have noticed that the watch does have a noticeable rattle when you give it a shake. The sound is audible from the wrist if the room is quiet enough. I would describe the sound as a kind of high pitch rattle, and distinct from the clicking sound it makes when I rotate it counterclockwise (winding the movement).

Anyway, I was just curious to see if any other owners have noticed similar sounds, or if the sound might be a result of some kind of malfunction/defect in my movement.

Thanks

I don't think this is just with Miyota...
I bought the pilot A Munster couple of days ago...with the ETA. 2824.2 movement, and the rattling sound when i shake a watch is quite loud... I was worried that there was something wrong with it, but it keeps time perfectly. Looses about a second a day... I am accepting this for what it is ..it is workiing and the noise is not really bothering me. The posts I came across just reassure that I am not alone who has the same experience with their Laco...

[sci]

The Miyota and ETA have completely different winding mechanisms. The sound of Miyota is free spinning of the rotor and the ETA is "jumpy" with small oscillations of the rotor between two gear resistances. Don't assume that every type of mechanism mounted in a Laco becomes noisy :) Also, the watches with glass backs tend to be more noisy than those with solid-back cases with same movement inside. Every mechanical movement have it's own noise and it is not only normal, it is a preferred effect for many watch fans (especially the ticking).

[arnz3]

I don't think this is just with Miyota...
I bought the pilot A Munster couple of days ago...with the ETA. 2824.2 movement, and the rattling sound when i shake a watch is quite loud... I was worried that there was something wrong with it, but it keeps time perfectly. Looses about a second a day... I am accepting this for what it is ..it is workiing and the noise is not really bothering me. The posts I came across just reassure that I am not alone who has the same experience with their Laco...

This what scares me the most actually. Other thread in this forum has discussed about the noise of ETA which makes me hold my intention to purchase Laco (thinking to buy Paderborn). I owned Laco before, type B Miyota Auto, and the problem I had with it is only the sound of the rotor (but it keeps accurate time though, which is very important).

[Uwe W.]

Other thread in this forum has discussed about the noise of ETA which makes me hold my intention to purchase Laco (thinking to buy Paderborn). I owned Laco before, type B Miyota Auto, and the problem I had with it is only the sound of the rotor (but it keeps accurate time though, which is very important).

And this is how rumour turns into a perceived, but untrue fact. Someone new to this forum will read this statement and parrot it into something else - that Laco has watches with noisy ETA movements, which is simply not true.

The Miyota rotor, based on my direct experience with that particular movement, makes noise regardless of which manufacturer's watch it's in. So that makes its noise a moot point here. And with respect to noisy ETA movements, I don't recall that being something discussed with any frequency here. If there are noisy ETA movements out there, they account for a very small percentage of the Laco watches being sold. I've yet to come across a noisy ETA in any Laco I've owned - or in any other manufacturer's watch for that matter. The odds of you ending up with one of these in a Laco would to be the same for any other watch brand - very slim.

[Uwe W.]

I am accepting this for what it is ..it is workiing and the noise is not really bothering me. The posts I came across just reassure that I am not alone who has the same experience with their Laco...

It's not normal, so I'd get it checked out. And I sure wouldn't keep shaking it around if it was making a "rattling" noise. I've never owned a Laco with a noisy ETA movement, and I have a number of them. Also, this issue isn't something that has been reported with any frequency here. Just because it's keeping good time doesn't mean that something isn't right inside the case, something that might come back to haunt you down the road.

[pavel36]

It's not normal, so I'd get it checked out. And I sure wouldn't keep shaking it around if it was making a "rattling" noise. I've never owned a Laco with a noisy ETA movement, and I have a number of them. Also, this issue isn't something that has been reported with any frequency here. Just because it's keeping good time doesn't mean that something isn't right inside the case, something that might come back to haunt you down the road.

...you just have to scare me don't you :).... I honestly don't know any good places to take it... I am in Montreal... There must be a few here, but I don't know any....

[Uwe W.]

...you just have to scare me don't you :).... I honestly don't know any good places to take it... I am in Montreal... There must be a few here, but I don't know any....

I have a buddy in Montreal who is pretty handy with watches; however, I'd suggest posting in the Public (main) Forum that you're looking for a good watchmaker in your area. Some suggestions will be sure to come your way. You should contact Laco too since it's new. I've always preferred to have small issues taken care of locally: peace of mind, quicker turn-around times, and none of the hassles associate with shipping something.

Oh, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's a very common movement and in all likelihood it'll be something very minor.

[arnz3]

And this is how rumour turns into a perceived, but untrue fact. Someone new to this forum will read this statement and parrot it into something else - that Laco has watches with noisy ETA movements, which is simply not true.

The Miyota rotor, based on my direct experience with that particular movement, makes noise regardless of which manufacturer's watch it's in. So that makes its noise a moot point here. And with respect to noisy ETA movements, I don't recall that being something discussed with any frequency here. If there are noisy ETA movements out there, they account for a very small percentage of the Laco watches being sold. I've yet to come across a noisy ETA in any Laco I've owned - or in any other manufacturer's watch for that matter. The odds of you ending up with one of these in a Laco would to be the same for any other watch brand - very slim.

Thanks for the reassurance Uwe, it's helpful. I think that spending that amount of money (for me quite a lot) need good judgments and considerations.

[arnz3]

I have a buddy in Montreal who is pretty handy with watches; however, I'd suggest posting in the Public (main) Forum that you're looking for a good watchmaker in your area. Some suggestions will be sure to come your way. You should contact Laco too since it's new. I've always preferred to have small issues taken care of locally: peace of mind, quicker turn-around times, and none of the hassles associate with shipping something.

Oh, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's a very common movement and in all likelihood it'll be something very minor.

By the way, I'm curious, if something wrong happen to your watch (still under warranty) and it's not normal, will Laco covers the shipping fee?

[pavel36]

I have a buddy in Montreal who is pretty handy with watches; however, I'd suggest posting in the Public (main) Forum that you're looking for a good watchmaker in your area. Some suggestions will be sure to come your way. You should contact Laco too since it's new. I've always preferred to have small issues taken care of locally: peace of mind, quicker turn-around times, and none of the hassles associate with shipping something.

Oh, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's a very common movement and in all likelihood it'll be something very minor.

Following your advice and getting tired of the anxiety over this i took the watch to a watchmaker recommended by someone on this forum...

The guy first just listened to the watch and said that everything seems to sound normal, but i insisted that he opens it and checks..

a few minutes later i was looking on my open Laco. the only piece that made the noise was the rotor. They watchmaker said he will try to tighten a little the rotor screw, but i don't think it made much difference..
Anyway, $10 bucks later i walked out reassured that there is nothing wrong with the watch (small price to pay for a piece of mind :))
I still find it a bit noisy, but again this doesn't bother me. The only reason i checked this out is to make sure that there is nothing is broken inside.

It is a beautiful watch and i had nothing but outstanding experience with laco shop representatives... I definitely don't want to say that all Laco watches are noisy, but it my particular case that is the experience. .. and I am OK with it.