NEW Laco Flieger Collection – 10 new models!

[paveiv]

I am totally on board with the new hand shape on the A-dial and the new case finish. I'm afraid I will be needing an A and B dial variant. The question is whether to keep the previous generation specimens or move them on....

Happy Thanksgiving to all my US-based Laco friends,

Myron

Same "problem" here :) But I will probably be keeping even the previous ones. I am already attached to them. The new changes seem very good, I have a feeling Dortmund (45mm, B-muster) will be the first addition next year. Damn.

I wonder how the new models will sell, more historically accurate body, hands blued by heat but the price...justifiable in my opinion but still the rise is very noticable.

Btw, about the Stowa vs Laco, as I have written many times, it is just a matter of taste. Two Stowas, two Lacos here, they are quite different, yes, in my opinion, the quality is better with the Stowa, it feels more "dressier" but Laco feels like a tool watch and the vintage feel is incomparable to Stowa.

And now it is drooling time :) (btw, I have the 42mm 2801, Mannheim, was it?, on me right now)

[thomas69]

I think it is further than a Laco vs Stowa matter after the severe price increase of Laco watches.

The price that Laco demands for some of its models come to the Sinn-Damasko territory.Almost same price but better specifications with the last two ones.

[mebiuspower]

I think it is further than a Laco vs Stowa matter after the severe price increase of Laco watches.

The price that Laco demands for some of its models come to the Sinn-Damasko territory.Almost same price but better specifications with the last two ones.

It's debatable topic... have you seen how much Sinn 556 was selling 1-2 years ago and how much it is now? Price went up 40% give or take and it's the exact same watch.

Besides, Sinn has an annual increase in price across the board every year. It's all about the baseline.

[Uwe W.]

I think it is further than a Laco vs Stowa matter after the severe price increase of Laco watches. The price that Laco demands for some of its models come to the Sinn-Damasko territory.Almost same price but better specifications with the last two ones.

With all due respect, I think you're being silly now. It's also your third or fourth post in which you're complain about the prices. I appreciate if Laco's price increase has disappointed you, but is it really necessary to keep repeating that you think they're too expensive. Unlike you, I have no issue holding my Laco up in comparison to the other brands; their quality justifies the cost - and Laco deserves to position itself on par with other Flieger manufacturers. I'll take the Laco over all of the others hands down. It's far cheaper than the Damasko, and even though its 10 EUR more than the Stowa, it has a bigger - more authentic - case AND it's available now. Moving up to a 45 mm Laco Flieger is a price jump, but that's a size that Stowa and Damasko don't even offer.

40 mm Stowa Flieger using an ETA 2824 = 640 EUR (VAT incl.) Delivery time - March 2012

42 mm Laco Flieger using an ETA 2824 = 650 EUR (VAT incl.) Delivery time - NOW

40 mm Damasko Flieger-style using an ETA 2836 = 850 EUR (VAT incl.)
38.5 mm Sinn (bare bones automatic model) = $1,000 USD

[Uwe W.]

The question is whether to keep the previous generation specimens or move them on....

Same "problem" here :) But I will probably be keeping even the previous ones. I am already attached to them. The new changes seem very good, I have a feeling Dortmund (45mm, B-muster) will be the first addition next year.

No question for me; I'm keeping all of my older models. Just like paveiv's sentiment, I'm too attached to them to let them go. There is another reason; I view my older models as different watches from the new ones. Without counting, I have around half-a-dozen Flieger watches with the same Baumuster from various manufacturers, and although the dials are extremely similar, each watch has its own feel when I'm wearing it. The same thing will apply to my older generation Laco B-Uhrs; very similar, but very different in how they make me feel. One thing I do need is another 55 mm, but with the A-Muster dial; just like Myron, I'd really like to have a complimentary 'set'.

[thomas69]

With all due respect, I think you're being silly now. It's also your third or fourth post in which you're complain about the prices. I appreciate if Laco's price increase has disappointed you, but is it really necessary to keep repeating that you think they're too expensive. Unlike you, I have no issue holding my Laco up in comparison to the other brands; their quality justifies the cost - and Laco deserves to position itself on par with other Flieger manufacturers. I'll take the Laco over all of the others hands down. It's far cheaper than the Damasko, and even though its 10 EUR more than the Stowa, it has a bigger - more authentic - case AND it's available now. Moving up to a 45 mm Laco Flieger is a price jump, but that's a size that Stowa and Damasko don't even offer.

40 mm Stowa Flieger using an ETA 2824 = 640 EUR (VAT incl.) Delivery time - March 2012

42 mm Laco Flieger using an ETA 2824 = 650 EUR (VAT incl.) Delivery time - NOW

40 mm Damasko Flieger-style using an ETA 2836 = 850 EUR (VAT incl.)
38.5 mm Sinn (bare bones automatic model) = $1,000 USD

Excuse me for being repetitive,my previous post was an answer to a member that happened to agree with.I would like to explain myself because my initial thought was that in the new Laco's price range there are multiple selections of flieger watches to be made apart from Stowa and even in an upper category like Sinn and Damasko,which both of them were stated as an example and their prices are quite similar.

I cannot enter into the situation of comparing prices,case diameters and analyzing characteristics or the pros and cons of Laco against other brands offering pilot watches because the list is unlimited.Everyone that is seriously considering getting a pilot watch should already know which company to choose and at which price.

I have no doubt about Laco's quality,yes I do believe that their new prices are high however I don't feel dissapointed by Laco because I tend to buy what suits me best.

So,no bad feelings.

[LH2]

I like what I see. I own the previous hand wind A-Dial Karlsruhe, but might just spring for one from the new 42mm Flieger line just for the thermally blued hands and new case finish.

I presume the case dimensions and lugs remain the same as the older 42mm models?

[fachiro1]

Being a long time Laco fan, i have this to offer. Yes, we all want a watch with all the features for less money, but a company has to thrive. Why, jusy a year ago, there was the possiblity that the company was going to fold...or at least rumors, and today, they are offering more models, more features, and they have stayed true to the roots of their historical design. I say Bravo! Laco!

Yes, Stowa and Jorg are meticulous when it comes to fit and finish, and quality. The watches are very well done. Conrad Damasko offers a lot of technology in a watch for a very good price too. They are all great watches.

But they are not Laco. With Laco, you get the historically correct designed case. Solid pressure fit back, correct dials, hand wind, auto, even quartz options. A lot more choices. The Stowa, though one of the 5 historical companies, has a case that doesnt resemble at all, the historical case. The FO case is the same case as the Marine Original, and the 40mm has a coventional case. Damasko DA series are modern designs.

I have owned all these watches and have loved them all, but For the most authentic design, the prize goes to Laco. Ive had just about every model, from the old sub second hand wind to the 55mm new edition. My favorite is still the WUS LE.

They are all quality watches.

[Myron]

Being a long time Laco fan, i have this to offer. Yes, we all want a watch with all the features for less money, but a company has to thrive. Why, jusy a year ago, there was the possiblity that the company was going to fold...or at least rumors, and today, they are offering more models, more features, and they have stayed true to the roots of their historical design. I say Bravo! Laco!

Yes, Stowa and Jorg are meticulous when it comes to fit and finish, and quality. The watches are very well done. Conrad Damasko offers a lot of technology in a watch for a very good price too. They are all great watches.

But they are not Laco. With Laco, you get the historically correct designed case. Solid pressure fit back, correct dials, hand wind, auto, even quartz options. A lot more choices. The Stowa, though one of the 5 historical companies, has a case that doesnt resemble at all, the historical case. The FO case is the same case as the Marine Original, and the 40mm has a coventional case. Damasko DA series are modern designs.

I have owned all these watches and have loved them all, but For the most authentic design, the prize goes to Laco. Ive had just about every model, from the old sub second hand wind to the 55mm new edition. My favorite is still the WUS LE.

They are all quality watches.

Right on, Fachiro. You have said it well.

Myron

[clew84]

Love the new models - changes make a lot of sense. I am thinking of getting the type B, 42mm, hand wound model (the Leipzig). Anyone have any of the new models, and if so, what's your take so far?