Which Watch Brands Belong in the High-End Forum? Which Ones Do Not?

[Andrés]

i was told this, but the sales person may not have known what he was talking about.

I would double check the info before posting, specially if you´re getting you facts from sales people.

BTW-The sales person had no clue about what he was talking.

[Andrés]

i just spoke with 2 different ADs. they both said that AP makes their non-chrono movements, and that their chrono movements are modified movements of other manufacturers.

Close but no cigar. First of all, AP makes a lot of different watches and you can´t exclusively split their movements into chronos and non-chronos. To complicate things even more, for example, they use in-house non chrono movements (like the cal.3120), non in-house non-chrono movemets like the cal.2121 (JLC 920 base movement) used on the iconic Royal Oak Jumbo. They also have in-house chrono movements, like the AP caliber 2897 used in ROO Tourbillon Chrono, Chronos with in-house base movents (Cal.3120) and Dubois Depraz chronograph modules, like the new ROO´s...I can go on and on...

Like it was already said by Adam: "AP qualifies as a high-end, in-house manufacture by every reasonable criteria"

[Stensbjerg]

I think some brands make something in both camps (luxury and highend)
for example IWC and Chopard I thinke it is the same case with Blancpain because as you say the do make pure highend.

It is the same with a brand like Glashutte Orginal they are often "forgotten" when we talk highend.
I think many just tend to say then first four that comes to mind when they talk about highend brands.

[TK-421]

very good points. i agree that some brands have both luxury and high-end. just like my IWC portofino would not be considered high-end.

I think some brands make something in both camps (luxury and highend)
for example IWC and Chopard I thinke it is the same case with Blancpain because as you say the do make pure highend.

It is the same with a brand like Glashutte Orginal they are often "forgotten" when we talk highend.
I think many just tend to say then first four that comes to mind when they talk about highend brands.

[Watchbreath]

In-house, yes and no. They make em, Frederic Piguet designs em.

I really wonder why Blancpain is not high-end, but just luxury. Ok, I know that's different between high-end and luxury, but, can anyone tell me more specific?

Each Blancpain watch is made by single watchmaker, they have in-house movements, they got the most complicated watch in the world (Blancpain 1735). And Blancpain is not high-end watch?

[TK-421]

Frederic Piguet is going to become exclusively Blancpain. in essence there will be no more Frederic Piguet.

In-house, yes and no. They make em, Frederic Piguet designs em.

[Watchbreath]

Maybe they'll change their name to, Freddy P!

Frederic Piguet is going to become exclusively Blancpain. in essence there will be no more Frederic Piguet.

[GWGeorge]

It keeps getting bigger and bigger AND BIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whats yer favorite high end ice cream? HE HE HA HA!

[craniotes]

i just spoke with 2 different ADs. they both said that AP makes their non-chrono movements, and that their chrono movements are modified movements of other manufacturers.

Gotta go with Andres here (nice to see you on WUSsy, amigo); never get your info from a dealer.

Regards,
Adam

[Stensbjerg]

I'm not a big AP fan (all those L.E Royal Oak Off Shore just put the brand down for me)
but they still make som great watches,and AP is for sure a highend member just like PP,VC,JLC and many others.

It just take a few minutes with google as your friend to realize that.