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    Re: What makes Patek No 1

    Quote Originally Posted by socalbreeze View Post
    Sorry if I resurrected this thread from the dead. Like it or not, its the Offshore series that kept AP privately owned til today. They would of went out of business awhile back if all these celebrities didnt start rocking it. (Panerai, anyone?)

    The top 3 are: PP, AP, and VC. We all can make an argument for Lange and JLC. But whoever said Breguet retains its value must be joking.
    I don't think anyone would argue the above are the top 6 brands in the horology world. Where they are relative to each other is probably very subjective.

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    Re: What makes Patek No 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Stensbjerg View Post
    To me PP is no way near number one

    VC is a head if we are talking history with (what I belive) is a longer and better one
    Lange is a head if we are talking mekanik for ex are PP today using a chemical polishing as many cheaper brands where Lange use real hand polish.
    (there is nothing wrong with thats polish as longe as you don't take the prices PP do)

    One of my watch friend thats talks with some really serious people in the industry have been told that today PP really living a lot on the name
    so to me Lange and VC are at the top today with a small advantage to Lange.
    Am I too late to jump in on this? Patek isn't necessarily no 1, just like Rolex isnt necessarily no 1 in the mid range watch realm, or how ferrari isnt necessarily no 1 in the exotic car realm. Those companies are just the most recognizable. Patek did something right along the way of its history to make it the most famous high end watch company out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jobryan View Post
    Am I too late to jump in on this? Patek isn't necessarily no 1, just like Rolex isnt necessarily no 1 in the mid range watch realm, or how ferrari isnt necessarily no 1 in the exotic car realm. Those companies are just the most recognizable. Patek did something right along the way of its history to make it the most famous high end watch company out there.
    You are so right my friend they did something very very right
    they asked JLC to make some movement for them to give them the good jump start they needed

    To me they are not even the most famous high-end brand out there
    but we all have our belives
    It's just a watch

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    Re: What makes Patek No 1

    Well, that's one way to stand apart from the crowd.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stensbjerg View Post
    You are so right my friend they did something very very right
    they asked JLC to make some movement for them to give them the good jump start they needed

    To me they are not even the most famous high-end brand out there
    but we all have our belives

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    Re: What makes Patek No 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Stensbjerg View Post
    You are so right my friend they did something very very right
    they asked JLC to make some movement for them to give them the good jump start they needed

    To me they are not even the most famous high-end brand out there
    but we all have our belives
    Well now im interested. In your opinion, what is the most recognizable high end brand on the market (excluding fashion watches)? JLC might be a relatively close second, but I would guess most people think of PP when they think of high end pieces.
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    Re: What makes Patek No 1

    Quote Originally Posted by jobryan View Post
    Well now im interested. In your opinion, what is the most recognizable high end brand on the market (excluding fashion watches)? JLC might be a relatively close second, but I would guess most people think of PP when they think of high end pieces.
    The way is see it the most famos and recognizable brand out ther today is AP (just take a look at how many celeb and rolemodels that wear RO and ROO today)
    I don't get the feeling of that many people know PP or JLC for that matter,I think they are much more discrete,
    maybe I stand alone with that point of view like watchbreath says,but that dosen't change anything for me.

    But then again maybe it is only us watch crazy people that look at what watch all the celeb wears ??
    It's just a watch

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    I consider many of the celebs, twits and I couldn't care less what they wear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stensbjerg View Post
    The way is see it the most famos and recognizable brand out ther today is AP (just take a look at how many celeb and rolemodels that wear RO and ROO today)
    I don't get the feeling of that many people know PP or JLC for that matter,I think they are much more discrete,
    maybe I stand alone with that point of view like watchbreath says,but that dosen't change anything for me.

    But then again maybe it is only us watch crazy people that look at what watch all the celeb wears ??
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    Re: What makes Patek No 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchbreath View Post
    I consider many of the celebs, twits and I couldn't care less what they wear.
    I couldn't also not care less what these people wear
    but they can make a watch famos and well know like it or not.
    It's just a watch

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    Patek commands the highest demand and highest prices of any ultra luxury wristwatches at auction. I think it would be safe to say that Patek has fetched more at auction in the past decade than VC, AP, JLC and ALS combined.

    Also in emerging markets like China, Patek is absolutely number 1 in this market segment.

    If we are going only on celebrity endorsements then I suppose Rolex, Omega an TAG are the top watches. I don't know anyone outside of the watch community who knows what Richard Mille or AP are, but when talking about ultra luxury timepieces many will have heard of Patek.

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    Re: What makes Patek No 1

    Most get them as a freebee to attract the legions of wannabes out there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stensbjerg View Post
    I couldn't also not care less what these people wear
    but they can make a watch famos and well know like it or not.

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