Michael Kors garbage?

[Bud001]

I paid for one. It was a gift for the gf, she happy with it, fashion brand, no worry about winding or knocking around.

Overpriced for what it is..but again you look at hermes handbag that cost 4k

Exactly. I would not be surprised if Burberry was a swatch brand, since they have experience with nice watches. ... but Fossil?

[portauto]

Exactly. I would not be surprised if Burberry was a swatch brand, since they have experience with nice watches. ... but Fossil?

Take sunglasses as a good example. Did you know that Luxottica Group owns Ray-Ban, Oakley, Persol, Oliver Peoples, REVO, and Vogue? And that they are licensed to produce sunglasses for Anne Klein, Brooks Brothers, Bvlgari, Burberry, Chanel, Chaps, Club Monaco, D&G, DKNY, Miu Miu, Polo, Paul Smith, Prada, Ralph Lauren, Ferragamo, Stella McCartney, Tiffany, and Versace?

Does anyone actually believe that accessory lifestyle products like sunglasses are actually produced in-house by these top brands?

Overpriced for what it is..but again you look at hermes handbag that cost 4k

That Hermes handbag.. for $4K its a steal. Many of their bags sell for $20K or even above retail price, there can be waiting lists for years. Women treat Hermes bags like Patek, it's all relative.

Kindest Regards,
Portauto

[Shaunie_007]

I agree with what everyone has said on this thread, Michael Kors is a fashion watch and should only be purchased as that. I bought my girlfriend a Michael Kors watch for over $300 for valentines day and she was ecstatic! Most likely for the praise she would get from her girlfriends that care about all the brand named products, but if you're looking for a well built watch that has reliable movement, you can easily find something with much better build quality in that price range IE Seiko, Hamilton, Magrette... The list goes on, and IMO the brands with the better build quality will also be more "fashionable" for a longer time than a MK watch. Most watches branded as fashion watches will be out of style in about 2 years or so, but you can wear a 10+ year old Hamilton or Seiko and get compliments on it.

[Chronopolis]

I don't believe Michael Kors is a watchmaker.

I don't believe there is even a person named Michael Kors doing what he supposedly does for a living.

[portauto]

I don't believe there is even a person named Michael Kors doing what he supposedly does for a living.

Michael Kors owns 12% of the company, and acts as Honorary Chairman and Principal Designer. Sportswear Holdings owns a 50% stake and filed to take the company public in 2011. Their watches are licensed to Fossil, their eyewear to Marchon, and their fragrances to Estee Lauder.

And on that note, Marchon is also licensed to produce eyewear for Calvin Klein, Fendi, Lacoste, Nautica, Nike, Ferragamo, Valentino and Disney among many others. As you can see, everything goes in circles when it comes to licensing in the fashion community.

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Portauto

[portauto]

I believe they are just rebranded and overpriced Fossil watches.

I'll bet a Seiko 5 is a far superior watch, but 99.9% of people you encounter won't know that.

For $300 it serves it's purpose, to get oohs and ahhs from that 99.9%.

I don't know if I would go quite that far, the fit, finish and heft on most Fossil watches and on the aforementioned fashion brands are superior to a Seiko 5 in my opinion. And I don't find the Seiko 5 to be particularly accurate, the Fossil quartz watches will almost certainly outperform the Seiko automatic.

Here I'm entering sacred Seiko territory, so I'll step back. But we're not comparing movements here folks, we're talking about fashion watches.

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Portauto

[Chronopolis]

I don't know if I would go quite that far, the fit, finish and heft on most Fossil watches and on the aforementioned fashion brands are superior....
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Portauto

You seem to know something about the business side of design.
Indeed, a place for everything and everything in its place when it comes to things.

I had a Fossil once: Decker, was it? Very handsome dial, but the case was not well made: roughly finished, and on the verge of rusting after a year. Poor grade steel, prolly. And the movement was as cheap as they come.

I have noticed that Fossil has upped their design recently, and I like some of them. I think if they could upgrade the rest of the package, I'd certainly consider buying a few.

It makes no difference to me if a brand is a "fashion" brand.
Some of the Burberry's look great, but I don't wanna spend that kinda $ for em, UNLESS the movement (quartz, obviously) is AT LEAST on par with many of the better Seiko chronos. And
Seiko makes some great quartz movements for chronos! 7T62, 7T92, etc.
The 7T** chrono second hand moves like an automatic! Shmooth. And they can do this for under 150. The SNN20* series, for example.
So, $400 for an inferior quartz watch - albeit handsome - with a different name is hard for me to accept.

If these fashion watches were better equipped, why not? To me, it'd be like buying a Seiko, but with more design choices.

[portauto]

I didn't mean to challenge the Seiko Gods, but I'm talking specifically about the Seiko 5 as this model was brought up above, and its one I actually quite like for the price and have worn on my wrist. But I would wager that 9/10 people who were to put on a Seiko 5 and a Burberry watch, even without looking at the brands would pick the Burberry.

Kindest Regards,
Portauto

[Chronopolis]

I didn't mean to challenge the Seiko Gods, but I'm talking specifically about the Seiko 5 as this model was brought up above, and its one I actually quite like for the price and have worn on my wrist. But I would wager that 9/10 people who were to put on a Seiko 5 and a Burberry watch, even without looking at the brands would pick the Burberry.

Kindest Regards,
Portauto

I hope you didn't think I was "defending" Seiko or any brand for that matter. They'd have to PAY me first to do that. :D
(Frankly, I am perplexed by people who get hot under the collar when they think "their" brand is "under attack". )

I was only remarking about my experience with Fossil that I wanted to like, but couldn't due to the shortcomings mentioned.
I still would like to have - have, but not buy with my own $ - the Burberry military chrono.
Maybe I could cajole one of my filthy wealthy nieces to get one for her ever-penurious uncle. :D

PS: I do mean 'filthy' as in 'poor in hygiene', not as in, 'filthy rich.'

[portauto]

I hope you didn't think I was "defending" Seiko or any brand for that matter. They'd have to PAY me first to do that. :D
(Frankly, I am perplexed by people who get hot under the collar when they think "their" brand is "under attack". )

That's a whole other topic.. Seiko and Casio have very dedicated and loyal followers on this forum, their numbers alone can overwhelm a poster when their brand comes under attack. I still shudder when I think of the time I posted less than favorable remarks about the MarineMaster that I owned and subsequently sold

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Portauto