2011 Laco Special Edition Project - GENERAL DISCUSSION

[brainless]

Hi Uwe,

the case is customized, as are the hands and the dial. We got two backs (see through and solid), two different leather straps with rivets and a nice leather case.
The "modern" 2824-2 was modified: Not automatic but handwound plus hacking second.

Both movements 2824/2801 and Durowe 7425/7525 are used since the early seventies: ETA 2824 was introduced in 1971, Durowe 7425 in 1972.
Both are nearly identical in their size: here you can have a look at
Durowe 7425

bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Durowe 7425 (INT)

ETA 2824

bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: ETA 2824


Considering all points written above:Where is that difference of nearly 850,-€?


Volker

[Janne]

Brainless, I remember the case was a standard 42mm Laco case.
I am not sure if the surface treatment was different.
And I am lazy to check through all 1000+ posts !

Uwe, any possibility to ask Laco to reconsider the cost? Even with a complex dial, a max cost of 900 - 1000 euro should be possible.

It would be cheaper to buy a 42mm Laco with the standard ETA, and have a watchmaker that advertises here on WUS to make new hands and a new dial, plus modify the movement to same specs as the WUS LE.....

[kubelwagen]

+1 on the comments re cost, as I find it steep as well. Anyways given that the final design and components are still to be agreed on, its very much wait and see for me. Looking forward to the voting. Cheers

[Uwe W.]

Uwe, any possibility to ask Laco to reconsider the cost? Even with a complex dial, a max cost of 900 - 1000 euro should be possible.

I'll bring the dissent being voiced over the price to their attention.

[Janne]

You can allways tell them that ofr that price we kind of expect some decorations on the movement, blued screws, a porcellain dial and heat blued hands...

[redwatch]

Uwe, any possibility to ask Laco to reconsider the cost? Even with a complex dial, a max cost of 900 - 1000 euro should be possible.

I agree with the price range. We are not really "creating" a new watch. We basically modify some existing dials and hands. And as long as the NOS movement is working, I don't really care if it is decorated or not. After all, it is not the movement by A. Lange or Patek.

There might be another way to bring down the cost. If we increase the numbers of watches of this limited edition from 50 to 80 or 100, the price per watch will be lower also.

[mcfr]

The price is ridiculous, ecspacially since it's the starting price.....

[Janne]

I already wrote this before, if we are really keen to do a "Special" and Laco does not want to give us a fair price, we can always source the required number of Laco watches from an Online source (50 units = big discount) and ask a resident friendly watchmaker to do the hands and dial.
I would think we can buy a 42mm ETA Laco B-uhr for maybe 450 Euro (listprice 490 - approx 10%).

It can be difficult to increase the number of interested to more than 50 people.

[Uwe W.]

I agree with the price range. We are not really "creating" a new watch. We basically modify some existing dials and hands. And as long as the NOS movement is working, I don't really care if it is decorated or not. After all, it is not the movement by A. Lange or Patek.

There might be another way to bring down the cost. If we increase the numbers of watches of this limited edition from 50 to 80 or 100, the price per watch will be lower also.

Just a couple of things I wanted to clear up: the dial and hands are not existing, nor are they being modded. They would be manufactured from scratch especially for this watch. And there is no option to increase the number being produced as there are only a limited number of the NOS movements to begin with.

[Uwe W.]

I already wrote this before, if we are really keen to do a "Special" and Laco does not want to give us a fair price, we can always source the required number of Laco watches from an Online source (50 units = big discount) and ask a resident friendly watchmaker to do the hands and dial.
I would think we can buy a 42mm ETA Laco B-uhr for maybe 450 Euro (listprice 490 - approx 10%).

It can be difficult to increase the number of interested to more than 50 people.

I think it's a little unfair to be stomping on Laco - certainly not in their sponsored and official forum. They're a reasonable group of people; I will be discussing the negative reaction to their base price and let's see where that leads to first. I can somewhat understand that they don't want to be caught in the opposite problem where they quote a price that is too low and then everyone freaks out when the price is much higher. Keep in mind that they were hesitant to come up with any price in the first place. The problem with these projects is that often people will suggest all kinds of elaborate specifications for a watch without any conception of the costs involved.