René Barton Regulateur – poor man’s 24h regulator (AWW 40)
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    René Barton Regulateur – poor man’s 24h regulator (AWW 40)

    Specifications

    Name: René Barton Regulateur Mechanique
    Movement: H3612S 36 mm hand wind movement, 18 jewels, 21600 bph
    Time display: main dial minutes, subdial 24 hour (24 on top), subdial seconds,
    Date: no date
    Case: all stainless steel with snap case back
    Size: 42 mm diameter without crown, 46 mm with crown, 49 mm lug to lug
    Height: 12 mm
    Face: black dial with white minute markers, white hours subdial at 3, white seconds subdial at 9
    Text on dial: [René Barton logo] René Barton Regulateur MECHANIQUE
    Text on back: ALL STAINLESS STEEL [René Barton logo] René Barton 3 ATM WATER RESITANT
    Hands and markers: silver main minutes hand, small blue hours and seconds hand in subdials
    Water-resistance: 3 ATM water resistant
    Crown: unsigned main crown at 3
    Crystal: flat mineral crystal
    Lug: 22 mm
    Bracelet: genuine lizard leather strap with signed buckle



    Foreword

    The 24h regulators are a noble company – Schaumburg, Chronoswiss, Maurice Lacroix. For up to 100 times cheaper is 24h regulator by Rene Barton. I got it about year ago from Germany for EUR 45, wooden box and shipping inclusive. Almost NOS, worn maybe 1-2 times.

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    Who is René Barton? Nobody knows. Germasian (Asian watches pretending to be European, preferably German ones) brand named René Barton was active about 10 years ago. (Web domain named renebarton.com existed 2004-2005.) Mostly I can see them in Germany. In Watchuseek the name Rene Barton appears only in black list of several Germasian watch brands not accepted for support by German watchmaker.

    First I would like to rant that I got the black one, but there is also white much better version with nice guilloche dial ( [Erledigt] REGULATEUR - René Barton - UhrForum ):


    The black dial is not so nice. The subdials have different diameters and they are positioned at different distances from the center. You notice it immediately on this panda version. Additionally, the main minutes hand is also much more visible with the white version.

    The all stainless steel case is a cheap and simple copy of Chronoswiss design. Only 3 atm water resistance and snap case back (again, big watch with snap case back, probably I cannot close it without watchmaker’s help).

    When opening case I was surprised. Even the shape of a movement is something I haven’t seen before. Kind of a linear layout movement construction. Should be a Chinese movement, but there are no numbers or marks stamped. I can see jewels, but no idea how many they are. Timing machine says that it is a 21,600 bph movement. The accuracy is between +2/-5 sec/day, outstanding!



    After a long search I finally found this mysterious movement at Otto Frei – H3612S (Chinese Made Mechanical Watch Movements). This is 12h movement with two subdials – seconds and sun/moon. The sun/moon is replaced here with 24h hand and the main 12h hand is omitted.

    Further investigation gave some interesting results more. This movement is sometimes called as 3612 or TY3100.
    PTS Resources - Chinese Watch Industry Wiki :
    This very unusual ‘linear’ movement has much in common with the Liaocheng open-hearts, however Tsinlien (Sea-Gull Hong Kong) list it as TY3100, so it may be presumed to be by Sea-Gull.
    Very nicely decorated TY3100 you can see at: TY - 3100 (Louis-Bolle watch).

    From this thread we also know, that this is the very first Chinese linear layout movement!

    The watch came in a big red wooden box and is equipped with genuine lizard signed bracelet. These features are too much for a EUR 40 watch.

    Summary

    Very affordable 24h regulator watch. You can complaint about this and that, but for a EUR 40 watch it is not justified. You can easily use it as a daily beater, if the regulator-type of dial is ok for you.

    For me with my weak eyesight this watch has no practical value. The hours subdial is just too small. But as a collector’s item it is ok. Compare Réne Barton next to purist old Gycine Airman:



    The most interesting part of the watch is movement. When you open an unknown (even cheap) watch you never know what you’re gonna get.

    Last edited by Afka; February 7th, 2014 at 13:24.
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    Re: René Barton Regulateur – poor man’s 24h regulator (AWW 40)

    Interesting watch.. and they couldn't make it much smaller with that movement. That silver minutes hand does tend to get lost on the black dial.

    On the subject of the case back.. I bought one of these for ~$23

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    after taking the case back off of that Vostok .. and not being able to get it back on :) .. Supposed to work for crystals as well as casebacks.. but I haven't tried it on crystals. It works "ok" .. which is to say things don't always line up quite right when trying to use it.. but give it another try or two and it does work.

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    Re: René Barton Regulateur – poor man’s 24h regulator (AWW 40)

    I have case back closer press too, but I bought the wrong model. Biggest disc is only 38mm. I have to buy additional discs or another full set.

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