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    Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    Originally termed 'Beobachtungsuhr' or 'B-Uhr' for short, these type of watches were specially crafted for the German Luftwaffe pilots by A. Lange & Söhne, IWC, Wempe and the Pforzheim brands Laco and Stowa. The primary concern for these types of watches was the ease of readability even when the pilots were up in the air. For this very reason, a black dial with white luminous hands and numbers and a specially marked 12 o'clock denoted by a triangle with two small circles on the sides. Thus the Flieger, also commonly know as the Pilot or Aviator watch was born.

    Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"


    Packaging: This watch come with a smart black leather zipper pouch which is pretty tough from the inside to protect it from any external damage. This leather case itself comes inside a nice cardboard box. Both the leather pouch and the cardboard box have 'Laco/1925' written on them on the bottom right corner, which in my mind looks pretty elegant.





    The watch comes along with an additional black leather strap and a small manual which tells you how to set the time for all the different kinds of movements used by Laco.



    First Impression: This watch is quite stunning in its own simple way. Definitely something that catches your attention. The leather strap with the rivets goes really well with the dial and enhances the overall look of the watch.




    Case: 42mm wide and 12mm in height, stainless steel with a beautiful matte finish to it. It has "FL23883" engraved on the left and some more stuff on the back. The quality seems really good and has a nice feel to it. This one comes with a domed and anti-reflective sapphire crystal. and waterproof up to 5 ATM, which is good enough for your daily wear. Just like the original, this one comes with an 'onion crown' which looks great on a Flieger.






    Movement: The Bremen runs on the ever dependable Swiss automatic ETA 2824-2. It has 25 jewels, does 28800 bph and has no date complication.

    Dial: This model has the Type A dial, which excludes the inner circle as compared to the Type B dial. I prefer this one as its got a nice clean look to it. The hour marking have Arabic numbers and the traditional triangle for the 12.
    The hands hands are nice and wide for easy readability, which was a very important factor while constructing these kinds of watches back when they were first produced. The hands also have a beautiful blue outline which gives the watch a very classy look. Both the hands and the hour markings have Superluminova C3 on them which is pretty bright once charged.






    Strap: The watch comes with a nice thick brown calf leather strap with a couple of rivets on either side of the case, which look great, just like the original Laco Pilot. As mentioned above, this watch comes with an additional black leather strap, which I think is pretty sweet. The buckle had Laco engraved on it.




    Overall Impression: This watch had been on my wish list for quite a while now and I can truly say that it doesn't disappoint at all. It really a stunning timepiece with very nice build quality. Like I mentioned in my earlier post, although the case is 42mm, it has the presence and the look of a 44-45mm case, but somehow doesn't appear over sized. It looks just right!
    There are lots of companies that produce Fliegers, but not all of them are a part of its history. I think Laco has done a wonderful job recreating this stunning and classic timepiece, with great build quality and at an affordable price.


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    Re: Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    Great review, and a hell of a birthday present
    As a type B-owner I must say that this is absolutely a gorgeous watch!

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    Re: Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    Nice!

    Where can I buy one of these, mind sending me a PM with how much you paid for it?

    Thanks

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    Re: Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    Quote Originally Posted by holson View Post
    Nice!

    Where can I buy one of these, mind sending me a PM with how much you paid for it?

    Thanks

    https://shop.laco.de/
    490 euro according the laco website.

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    Re: Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    Nice read! Great review! May have to add one to my hoard!
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    Re: Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    Great review. Very good job !!

    What are the differences with this model Münster (https://shop.laco.de/en/Muenster.html)

    which is more expensive 650 euros instead of 490 euros ?

    Thanks !


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    Re: Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    The only difference i noticed from the specs is that the Munster is 13 mm thick while the Bremen is 12.
    There is also something about blue hands on Munster, but i did not see any difference between the models from the pictures.
    BTW. I just ordered Laco Bremen from milwatches.com.. their price was 436,76 with Fedex shipping included...

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    Re: Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    Great write up. I just got what I believe to be the replacement: the "Munster" Type A (ref. 861748) and your post helped me confirm that I received everything that I was supposed to. The strap is pretty stiff, due to the thickness, I presume.

    The biggest difference seems that I didn't receive the second black strap, but the single brown one is more "brown" and less "orange." Perhaps they combined the previous two colors?

    I believed that the engraved "FL23883" on the case was the original government contract code for the 55mm hand winder, but I wasn't sure. I think most of the non-Miyota Lacos have it. I got plenty of information on this topic right here.
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    Re: Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    This finish of the case is really amazing, but I am curious to see it after some years of wear. Bad, that here on the forum people are wearing each of their watches on a rotation principle and actually the long-term "wear" isn't so easy to report. Nevertheless, very nice watch, full of history and character.



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    Re: Laco Pilot 42 Type A Automatic - Ref: 861692 "Bremen"

    Quote Originally Posted by dcdude View Post
    Great write up. I just got what I believe to be the replacement: the "Munster" Type A (ref. 861748) and your post helped me confirm that I received everything that I was supposed to. The strap is pretty stiff, due to the thickness, I presume.

    The biggest difference seems that I didn't receive the second black strap, but the single brown one is more "brown" and less "orange." Perhaps the combined the previous two colors?

    I believed that the engraved "FL23883" on the case was the original government contract code for the 55mm hand winder, but I wasn't sure. I think most of the non-Miyota Lacos have it. I got plenty of information on this topic right here.
    Hey, congrats on your watch! Yeah, the strap is pretty thick - the thickest amongst all my watches in fact. Glad this review helped


    Quote Originally Posted by sci View Post
    This finish of the case is really amazing, but I am curious to see it after some years of wear. Bad, that here on the forum people are wearing each of their watches on a rotation principle and actually the long-term "wear" isn't so easy to report. Nevertheless, very nice watch, full of history and character.
    You know, that's actually something to think about. Maybe people should start posting a quick report on how their watches area doing after every year or so. Maybe I'll do that for my watches
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