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    U.S.N. BU SHIPS 1940's Canteen Style Diver's Watch

    Hi guys...
    anyone of you have a watch like this one..?

    I'm thinking of buying one........

    What do you think about my idea...?

    I like very much the:
    Zeno-USA 20 jewels wind-up mechanical wrist watch.

    A new re-creation of the original underwater timepieces produced by Elgin, Bulova and Hamilton that were issued by the United States Navy during World War II.
    Zeno-USA mechanical movement powers this watch and it is Hacking.
    Stainless steel case screwed case back water resistant 3 atm.
    Raised non-glare hardened acrylic crystal.
    Screw down canteen style crown cover.

    40mm lug tip to lug tip, 38mm in diameter including the threaded screw-down canteen crown cover, and 16mm between the lugs.

    How do you think about it?
    I cannot buy a frogman by Hamilton because of the price...


    And this one comes for about 90$...
    The best for me also because the others i've seen are all quarz powered......

    here a review:
    http://www.50717.com/notissued/zeno-canteen.html
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    Re: U.S.N. BU SHIPS 1940's Canteen Style Diver's Watch

    I've thought about this watch myself and came to the conclusion that it's too small for a daily wear watch (for me). As such, the only version of the watch I'd be interested in is the original - and so I'll save for one.

    I'm not against wearing homages (especially of mil/divers), but they have to be wearable, IYKWIM.
    "Deeds, not words, shall speak me." - John Fletcher

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    Re: U.S.N. BU SHIPS 1940's Canteen Style Diver's Watch

    the size of the watch it's about a Hamilton watch...
    i have seen and i hope it will be...
    i think it's not too small...

    i talk by myself...
    but i have small wrist...
    the maximum watch i wear it's Uzi Protector...
    It's the right size for me....

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    I believe size is OK for you Eros. So go for it
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    Re: U.S.N. BU SHIPS 1940's Canteen Style Diver's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by TZAG View Post
    I believe size is OK for you Eros. So go for it
    Thanks a lot TZAG you give me always good news.......


    for those who are interested in this watch i can write the email excange i had with Zeno.ch customer service.
    The girl that had replyed to my questoin was very gentle and she said to me this i'm going to show you:

    My first email:

    Hi, i'm a fan of clocks.i found a clock called U.S.N BU Ship produced
    currently from ZENO USA and a reproduction of the famous one frogman,
    produced from hamilton elgin and bulova in the world war II.
    here it's the link to the watch:

    [link to live auction]

    They say that it is produced from ZENO USA and I asked myself if effectively
    this type of movement to 20 jewels were produced just from ZENO and if it's
    producd from your associates company.
    You could kindly makes me to know if ZENO USA is a part of your company and
    if it adopts the qualitative and constructive standards you use?
    Thanks in advance.

    The reply:

    Hello,

    This model is a copy of our model and is 100% fake !!!
    We have that model in our collection under the Ref. F16155 with ETA 2750 or
    2801, 17 Jewels.

    Kind regards,
    Sandra


    end of the emails

    hope it can help who want's to know the origin of the watch and who is in doubt...
    Last edited by ecalzo; August 21st, 2007 at 23:26.

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    Re: U.S.N. BU SHIPS 1940's Canteen Style Diver's Watch

    Good day! Do you guys have any idea how much does this watch cost?

    ZENO NAVY CANTEEN WATCH
    This is a re-issue of WW2 navy canteen watch used by navy frogmen and underwater demolition team (UDT). Elgin, Waltham, and Bulova were the first watch companies to produce these kind of military watches. A highly collectible watch.
    32mm satin-finish case (40mm including crown) with screw-in back
    blue dial with markings ZENO-NAVY USN BUSHIPS
    cal. 2805 ETA manual wind movement with 48hr. power reserve
    original acrylic crystal
    rated 50m
    original 16mm. nylon military strap
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    Re: U.S.N. BU SHIPS 1940's Canteen Style Diver's Watch

    I understand that it is considered a very good re-edition/homage ... though it is frightfully small (though true to original size).
    Cheers,

    Martin ("Crusader")

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    Re: U.S.N. BU SHIPS 1940's Canteen Style Diver's Watch

    You can address several concerns at once by replacing the canvas strap.

    The factory canvas strap is not very comfortable, shows dirt readily, and makes the watch looks really tiny.

    I replaced mine with a brown Nilsen bund, but did not used the strap portion. The strap is a brown leather/olive nylon Hadley Roma 16mm 2 piece made for some styles of lady's Swiss Armies. The bund backer keeps the large crown from digging into the wrist, and makes the watch look less tiny.

    The brown of the Nilsen and Hadley-Roma portions are a very close match, at least in my case. YMMV.

    I wear mine a lot. Timekeeper and lume are decent. As revised, it is also comfortable.

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    Re: U.S.N. BU SHIPS 1940's Canteen Style Diver's Watch

    As usual, Billy is too shy to direct attention to what is likely the best website (also his own) about the original Elgin canteen watch: --> http://www.freewebs.com/billyschorr/elginudt.htm

    Much recommended, and a must for all those seriously interested in the canteen divers.
    Cheers,

    Martin ("Crusader")

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    Re: U.S.N. BU SHIPS 1940's Canteen Style Diver's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Thanks Crusader - very kind of you ! I appreciate the kind words and hope my small webpage reviews are helpful to others. Not too sure i'm shy - but i'll take that as a compliment ;).

    Kind Regards,

    Billy
    It was surely meant as a compliment ... probably should have used "modest" rather than shy. Hitting the right word and not a related one is one of the more common problems for non-native speakers. :oops:

    "Small webpage reviews" is a bid for the understatement of the year, eh?
    Cheers,

    Martin ("Crusader")

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