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    Who knows this Citizen?

    Hello everyone,

    while searching for a Flieger-style watch, preferably with Type B optics, I stumbled over the following watch:



    It's the Citizen BJ9130-05E (Eco-Drive with a case width of 40mm).

    Looks like a nice Pil/Mil-mixture, so I thought I might find more informations about it here, but... no! So come on, if you own this watch, please share youre experiences!

    And another question: are there other, öh, let's call them "Type-B-Flieger-GMT" watches? I really like that combination...

    ThanX in advance,
    Jörg

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    wow beautiful...
    watches are meant to tell times..

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    Nice dual time face but don't know if the GMT hand is independent or not. I've seen them in KLM's in-flight sales brochures.

    Another to consider would be the Torgeon T4.

    Minutes are the Milestones of Aviation - Fred, in 'Fools and Birds Fly'

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    I used to have the watch. I liked it for the most part, but I'm not a big fan of GMT watches since my eye was constantly drawn by the red gmt hand instead of the hour hand.

    The gmt is adjusted by moving the minutes, the hour is a jump hour hand when adjusted, so it is pretty nice when changing time zones.

    I only had it on a zulu, so I cant comment on the strap, though I hear a lot of people don't like it.

    the crown is not screw down.

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    Hello Jorg,

    I have a watch like that. The size is 40 x 46.5 x 9.7 mm.
    The watch is comfortable to wear, and not especially heavy.
    I can not comment on the original strap, because I have not
    tried it. I wear the watch on an old leather strap.

    The movement is the Citizen B876 Eco-Drive GMT module,
    which has been used in other Citizen analog GMT watches
    over several years. The orange 24 hour hand is set together
    with the minute hand when time keeping is stopped and the
    time is set. The 12 hour hand and date are linked, and set
    with the time keeping still running. Some people refer to this
    as "true GMT". The hour hand jumps in one hour increments
    when the crown is turned.

    The dial of the BJ9130 seems to borrow from the "flieger"
    style without copying it. I find that refreshing. I like the
    numbers around the dial. The 12 hour and minute hands are
    "skeleton" style, presumably to avoid obstructing the view of
    the 24 hour hand. Because of that there is not much room
    for phosphorescent material. I would say the resulting "lume"
    is weak. I need external light to read the time.

    The Eco-Drive movement is convenient for keeping the battery
    charged up. If I don't wear the watch for a while I take it out
    and charge it in a window or under my fluorescent desk lamp.
    I think Citizen says the movement can go 6 months without
    any charging, but I keep it charged.

    The 24 hour hand reads just like a 24 hour clock, as can be
    seen in this image of the two. Usually I keep the 24 hour
    hand set to GMT.

    You can compare the watch here to a couple of others with
    the same movement. Citizen has not derived these designs
    from one original. Each has its own character. I have not
    seen another watch similar to the BJ9130.

    Overall the Citizen BJ9130 is a nice watch. It is reliable,
    sturdy, comfortable to wear, and cost effective. It comes
    with a 5 year warranty from Citizen USA, but it looks like
    I won't be needing that. I should wear the watch more.
    Some of the higher maintenance watches are using up
    wrist time while I check their timing.

    I hope this helps.

    Thanks,
    rationaltime
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    :thanks rationaltime and mrsuicide for the informations.

    To know that the movement is the B876 (which I know from my Nighthawk) was very helpfull - finally we know it's a "real" GMT...

    Even though I would like to see its minute hand a bit longer and the GMT hand a bit shorter... I will definitely put that watch on my wish list

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    What's the lug size of this? I just ordered one and I'm trying to decide which nato/zulu to order for it.

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    FEB 24, 2009

    Hello discordianist,

    The Citizen BJ9130 lug space is 20 mm.

    Thanks,
    rationaltime

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    Thanks!

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    Here's mine!

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