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    Re: Gruen Question

    Hi -

    Nope, no, nada, auf keinen Fall, merci no, capish?



    But thanks for the effort. Most of my Gruens have cost less than that, and are about 10x the watch...

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    Re: Gruen Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Orange View Post
    Out of interest, if you bought the movement alone from eta, does anyone know how much you would have to pay? I'm willing to bet that as a private buyer they would cost you more than 40 bucks.
    Just done a quick google search and answered my own question. To buy one eta 2824 will set you back $86 + shipping. Maybe I'll hang on to my Gruen a little longer, if nothing else I could always cannibalize it for the movement.

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    Re: Gruen Question

    There has been a lot of back and forth on the gold gilded ETA 2824 being Asian produced. While some of the ETA movements are assembled in Asia with the parts being manufactured in Switzerland......it appears that some folks would like to believe all ETA automatics which are gold gilded therefore are Asian produced.

    From what has been written on this and other forums on this subject, I would tend to believe that some of the gold gilded ETA automatics are Asian and some are not. It is not that simple to just lump them all in the category of "gold gilted" therefore "Asian produced". It does appear that there is a version of the gold gilted ETA Auto which is the "Economique" model. So, not surprising if some of them were/are assembled elsewhere.

    I know Croton and Invicta were/are using some of the gold gilted ETA Autos and in the past this was the knock against them (being Asian produced and I do not know if this was true or not). As far as the quality, not sure there were ever any specific issues. ETA, regardless of where they are produced, still has some high quality, qc, and qa standards.

    Would I prefer a entirely Swiss Made Watch movement....of course. But, not if it is going to cost me an additional $1000 on a watch which normally retails for $229.

    It looks like this may not be such an issue anymore anyhow with Sellita producing their version of the ETA calibers. Now, the buzzword will be.....yeah, but it is the SW version. LOL... So, it goes.

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    My understanding is the Asian eta's are sold solely in the Asian market.
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    Re: Gruen Question

    Haha, I'm glad I sparked a good thread, but does anyone have an opinion on the watch I have pictured? lol Or experience with the G10.211

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    Re: Gruen Question

    Quote Originally Posted by sandoz View Post
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    I own 2 of these gruens. According to the papers supplied with the watches, and according to a personal conversation with a berger company rep. (Gruen's current owner), the gilded 2824-2 movements are assembled and manufactured in Switzerland. The 316L SS case and bracelet are, however, chinese made and, as you say, of fine build quality (solid links, tooled deployant clasp and +7sec/day accuracy after two years of regular wear). IMO,the rap that gilded 2824s are asian is nothing more than an unfounded rumor. BTW, I removed the unidirectional bezel on my blackface diver and it is steel.
    Hi. I hope you don't mind me resurrecting this thread.

    I just purchased the Gruen pictured in this thread off of ebay. I paid 23.50 plus $10 shipping.

    I know your post said the 2824 movement is swiss made and that the case is chinese made. Who does the final assembly?

    Also, I've read people say it is small. Does any anyone have the case dimensions handy? I've come across the height but not the width in my research.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg_9 View Post
    Hi. I hope you don't mind me resurrecting this thread. I just purchased the Gruen pictured in this thread off of ebay. I paid 23.50 plus $10 shipping. I know your post said the 2824 movement is swiss made and that the case is chinese made. Who does the final assembly? Also, I've read people say it is small. Does any anyone have the case dimensions handy? I've come across the height but not the width in my research. Thanks.
    ·Size: 33mm wide (Excluding the crown) and 36mm in length.
    ·High Grade 2824 ETA 25 Jewels Swiss made Automatic movement.
    ·Dial is Blue
    ·the Bezel is Gold
    ·the Case is Silver
    ·Two tone Gold/Silver Stainless Steel case
    ·Tonneau case
    ·Exhibition Caseback with Four Screws
    ·Genuine Gruen Leather strap that will fit up to 8 inch wrist or smaller.
    ·Steel Butterfly buckle with Signature "G" on the gold tone buckle
    ·Date Calendar at 3PM position
    ·Luminous hands
    ·Sapphire crown
    ·Mineral Domed Crystal
    ·100Ft Water Resistant
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    Re: Gruen Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Docrwm View Post
    ·Size: 33mm wide (Excluding the crown) and 36mm in length.
    ·High Grade 2824 ETA 25 Jewels Swiss made Automatic movement.
    ·Dial is Blue
    ·the Bezel is Gold
    ·the Case is Silver
    ·Two tone Gold/Silver Stainless Steel case
    ·Tonneau case
    ·Exhibition Caseback with Four Screws
    ·Genuine Gruen Leather strap that will fit up to 8 inch wrist or smaller.
    ·Steel Butterfly buckle with Signature "G" on the gold tone buckle
    ·Date Calendar at 3PM position
    ·Luminous hands
    ·Sapphire crown
    ·Mineral Domed Crystal
    ·100Ft Water Resistant
    Thanks, Docrwm!

    I don't suppose you have the lug widths handy?

    I reckon the watch was assembled in china, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnF View Post
    Hi -

    I had seen that, but forgotten totally that it exists! Thanks for the link!

    JohnF
    Here's another Gruen tidbit for you, John; Capt. Keith Mallory (Gregory Peck) has a Gruen in The Guns of Navarone (1961). There's a nice, clear close up of it about 1/3 through the movie (but you'll probably want to watch the whole movie. )

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    Re: Gruen Question

    Quote Originally Posted by greg_9 View Post
    Thanks, Docrwm!

    I don't suppose you have the lug widths handy?

    I reckon the watch was assembled in china, eh?
    Yes, it is rumored that it was assembled in China as a purchase for sale through WalMart around 2003. They were to sell for around $129 but were apparently surplused in 2005 or so.

    Lugs .... hmmm, just a sec.....18mm.

    Oddly, the rotor in the Gruen turns more smoothly and easily than the rotor in my Mido Multifort with an upgraded 2824-2 movement?
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