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    Question Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    Hello,

    I have read in more than one place that...

    1) Seagull supplies it's movements oil free. It leaves the task of lubricating the movement to the watch maker.
    2) Parnis inserts them into the case as-is, and sells watches with the movements dry as bone.

    These same people state that under these circumstances, the watches tend to croak after two years, as opposed to the decades of life a lubricated movement would provide.

    Who knows different? Please chime in.

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    Re: Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    Here is a review that shows at least for the movements he examined they were oiled. But, they did have contaminants.

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    Re: Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    Not all Parnis watches use Seagull movements. I have a Parnis with a DG movement 3804b and another with a Hangzhou 9120 (which is a GMT watch). I have a couple of Parnis Asian 6498s that are Seagull movements and both movements had either no oil or minimal oil, which didn't bother me as I've learned to oil and regulate them myself. Once oiled, these movements will perform as well as Swiss movements. I have a genuine branded Seagull watch and it's oiled. It's a lottery really, but having said that I've never had a dud Parnis watch. My advice would be to buy a Seagull branded watch if you're not willing to learn to oil them yourself, as a Seagull branded watch will be oiled.

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    Re: Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    Selling watches with unoiled movements is criminal act.
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    Re: Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    Hi Bucks,

    I'm not a watchmaker, and I have no intention to tinker.
    I appreciate that you've been lucky thus far, but I can't afford to throw the dice.

    I'm looking for that small group of watches that I can market to a tremendous group of people who deserve and appreciate a decent quality product and can't afford $500 - $5000 for a watch.
    I was under the impression that the Chinese market would offer just such a product, but I can't seem to get straight answers, or get beyond crooks.

    I don't particularly want to join the group of hucksters selling $10 watches for $189. Yes the majority of people in the world know nothing about watches and would pay for anything that looks good.
    We see it in branded watches everywhere.

    Some watches are indistinguishable from a $7 Chronos, but with a fancy website, some kaka copy, and prest-o-chango it's an elegant timepiece.
    That's just not my style.

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    Re: Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    If you're looking for original designs and good quality, I'd avoid parnis. There's a myriad of choices, such as Beijing watches, Seagull, Shanghai, FIYTA, et al.

    I'd hardly consider Parnis to be representative of an actual Chinese brand watch.


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    Re: Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    I'm not sure if Dixmont or Hangzhou provide movements oiled or not. Maybe pursue this avenue???

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    Re: Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    Hello ;)

    If the watch does not work anymore and then you go to a watchmaker and ask to service it (: open it, clean it, oil it and then reassemble it) : is it still a good bargain for you ?
    (i bought a Parnis radiomir homage for 80$, it is supposed seagull 6498 )

    How much is a good service and how often should it be done ? Today a Jewellery told me it costs 80€ and will take 1 month aproximately does it sound ok to you ?

    Thanks ;)

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    Re: Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    Quote Originally Posted by aron View Post
    If you're looking for original designs and good quality, I'd avoid parnis. There's a myriad of choices, such as Beijing watches, Seagull, Shanghai, FIYTA, et al.

    I'd hardly consider Parnis to be representative of an actual Chinese brand watch.


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    Re: Now that we are on the subject of Parnis...

    That nutcracker crown guard is certainly original!
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