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    Re: This kid is an idiot, I've gone fast on a bike

    Quote Originally Posted by Time Talker View Post
    One wonders if a guy like that is suicidal or has a death wish at the very least, to do something so incredibly dangerous on an open highway in completely uncontrolled conditions. He must have realized that his chances for survival in the event of a crash were pretty much nil, not to mention the result for which ever car he hit.

    For being so selfish and irresponsible, a person like this should lose their license for LIFE + 20 years, but only after serving 10 years in Prison for risking so many lives in the course of that short video you posted.
    You bring up a good point, at 25 he would be very aware of the end result of a crash at that speed...pudding on the highway. It my very well have been a death wish that was on his mind.

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    Re: This kid is an idiot, I've gone fast on a bike

    Quote Originally Posted by portauto View Post
    This is motorcycling I respect, the level of braveness, determination and skill in this video is remarkable:

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    I have utter contempt for some reckless kid who plays a game of russian roulette with other people's lives

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    I completely agree, those final laps were astonishing. That is edge of your seat racing at it's best! I love racing and that is where it should be done, on a track.

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    Re: This kid is an idiot, I've gone fast on a bike

    Quote Originally Posted by stevend101 View Post
    If I was in my car, I would much rather share the road with this guy than share it with some idiot in a car, one hand on radio and other on the phone, if I was on my bike.
    I know who is more dangerous.
    Like it or not, this guy demonstrates a degree of skill and focus which is seldom replicated by 90% of the car driving population.
    I agree that he is a skilled driver, but that point is not only irrelevant, but irrational since he was driving at a ridiculous speed in traffic that had no idea they were being involved in a life ending situation. All of those car drivers were potential victims of an irresponsible criminal who not only risked his life but every one of the drivers he passed on that highway. Had any one of them changed lanes and turned into him, the outcome would have definitely been fatal for all parties involved.

    Let him take that skill to a race track where he is expected to break speed records, to do that on an open highway with people who have no idea they signed up for that risk when they left their homes that morning is not only criminal, it's homicidal. He deserves serious prison time for being such a threat to the unsuspecting public whose many lives he threatened in that 2 minute video.

    Quote Originally Posted by falcon4311 View Post
    You bring up a good point, at 25 he would be very aware of the end result of a crash at that speed...pudding on the highway. It my very well have been a death wish that was on his mind.
    Agreed, he had to know the end result of such an egregious and criminal act. And I have a personal story that still makes my blood run cold 40 years after the fact.

    Back in the mid 70's during the time of the muscle cars, I was driving to Harrisburg PA to see my girlfriend for the weekend, in my 72 Skylark. It was around 6:00 AM somewhere in NY State on the wide open highway where I was the only car on the road. I saw it as a good time to make time so I took a good long look in both my rear view mirror and my side mirror to insure I was alone before speeding up to 80 miles an hour.

    Seeing that no cars were behind me AT ALL, I started to increase my speed from 70 to 80, by the time I got to 75 mph, in what was mere seconds after checking my mirrors, a NY State Trooper passed me on my left like I was standing still. He had to be going at least 130 mph if he was moving at all. What scared and shocked me so much was that just seconds before I looked and saw that nobody was behind me for as far back as I could see. Then, without warning this car passed me. Had I decided to change lanes upon seeing that I was alone, I wouldn't be typing this post right now and my life would have ended in the mid 70's. That cop was as irresponsible as the bike rider in question since he should have considered that I could have changed lanes for any reason at all, or for no reason at all.
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    Re: This kid is an idiot, I've gone fast on a bike

    Quote Originally Posted by Time Talker View Post
    I agree that he is a skilled driver, but that point is not only irrelevant, but irrational since he was driving at a ridiculous speed in traffic that had no idea they were being involved in a life ending situation. All of those car drivers were potential victims of an irresponsible criminal who not only risked his life but every one of the drivers he passed on that highway. Had any one of them changed lanes and turned into him, the outcome would have definitely been fatal for all parties involved.

    Let him take that skill to a race track where he is expected to break speed records, to do that on an open highway with people who have no idea they signed up for that risk when they left their homes that morning is not only criminal, it's homicidal. He deserves serious prison time for being such a threat to the unsuspecting public whose many lives he threatened in that 2 minute video.



    Agreed, he had to know the end result of such an egregious and criminal act. And I have a personal story that still makes my blood run cold 40 years after the fact.

    Back in the mid 70's during the time of the muscle cars, I was driving to Harrisburg PA to see my girlfriend for the weekend, in my 72 Skylark. It was around 6:00 AM somewhere in NY State on the wide open highway where I was the only car on the road. I saw it as a good time to make time so I took a good long look in both my rear view mirror and my side mirror to insure I was alone before speeding up to 80 miles an hour.

    Seeing that no cars were behind me AT ALL, I started to increase my speed from 70 to 80, by the time I got to 75 mph, in what was mere seconds after checking my mirrors, a NY State Trooper passed me on my left like I was standing still. He had to be going at least 130 mph if he was moving at all. What scared and shocked me so much was that just seconds before I looked and saw that nobody was behind me for as far back as I could see. Then, without warning this car passed me. Had I decided to change lanes upon seeing that I was alone, I wouldn't be typing this post right now and my life would have ended in the mid 70's. That cop was as irresponsible as the bike rider in question since he should have considered that I could have changed lanes for any reason at all, or for no reason at all.

    Wow, that would be a rude awakening.

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    Re: This kid is an idiot, I've gone fast on a bike

    There is no doubt that the moron knows how to handle a bike but it should have been in an area where it's legal to drive at those speeds...like a race track. We have them here. I'm sure Victoria has them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time Talker View Post
    I agree that he is a skilled driver, but that point is not only irrelevant, but irrational since he was driving at a ridiculous speed in traffic that had no idea they were being involved in a life ending situation. All of those car drivers were potential victims of an irresponsible criminal who not only risked his life but every one of the drivers he passed on that highway. Had any one of them changed lanes and turned into him, the outcome would have definitely been fatal for all parties involved.

    Let him take that skill to a race track where he is expected to break speed records, to do that on an open highway with people who have no idea they signed up for that risk when they left their homes that morning is not only criminal, it's homicidal. He deserves serious prison time for being such a threat to the unsuspecting public whose many lives he threatened in that 2 minute video.



    Agreed, he had to know the end result of such an egregious and criminal act. And I have a personal story that still makes my blood run cold 40 years after the fact.

    Back in the mid 70's during the time of the muscle cars, I was driving to Harrisburg PA to see my girlfriend for the weekend, in my 72 Skylark. It was around 6:00 AM somewhere in NY State on the wide open highway where I was the only car on the road. I saw it as a good time to make time so I took a good long look in both my rear view mirror and my side mirror to insure I was alone before speeding up to 80 miles an hour.

    Seeing that no cars were behind me AT ALL, I started to increase my speed from 70 to 80, by the time I got to 75 mph, in what was mere seconds after checking my mirrors, a NY State Trooper passed me on my left like I was standing still. He had to be going at least 130 mph if he was moving at all. What scared and shocked me so much was that just seconds before I looked and saw that nobody was behind me for as far back as I could see. Then, without warning this car passed me. Had I decided to change lanes upon seeing that I was alone, I wouldn't be typing this post right now and my life would have ended in the mid 70's. That cop was as irresponsible as the bike rider in question since he should have considered that I could have changed lanes for any reason at all, or for no reason at all.
    As I stated in my earlier post, I in no way condone what this rider has done.
    However I stand by my point. In my 30 years both riding sports bikes and driving cars, I have witnessed considerably more accidents caused by distracted car drivers than I ever have with bikes ridden at speed.
    I believe that at least the rider must have been focused on the task in hand to even consider riding in this foolhardy way.
    How many reading this forum have driven an entire journey at some time and then had difficulty remembering everything about it. Each of these forgotten seconds was a potential accident.
    If you have ridden sports bikes at anything approaching these speeds (say on track) then you will understand the level of concentration required.
    Jail time for this is just not the answer, education is.
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    Re: This kid is an idiot, I've gone fast on a bike

    Quote Originally Posted by stevend101 View Post
    As I stated in my earlier post, I in no way condone what this rider has done.
    However I stand by my point. In my 30 years both riding sports bikes and driving cars, I have witnessed considerably more accidents caused by distracted car drivers than I ever have with bikes ridden at speed.
    I believe that at least the rider must have been focused on the task in hand to even consider riding in this foolhardy way.
    How many reading this forum have driven an entire journey at some time and then had difficulty remembering everything about it. Each of these forgotten seconds was a potential accident.
    If you have ridden sports bikes at anything approaching these speeds (say on track) then you will understand the level of concentration required.
    Jail time for this is just not the answer, education is.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAWATCHES View Post
    I can't remember all the particulars, but I remember a situation some time ago where a car pulled out in front of a biker in town one evening and the biker was killed...Well there was a big deal made about it and how car drivers don't respect bikers and all that....BUT, after the investigation it was determined that the biker was doing in excess of 100 MPH, the speed limit was 35mph....Think about it when the car driver looked both ways he saw a small speck coming at him with plenty of time to pull out, but with the biker going almost three times faster then allowed you could not blame the car for the accident....all charges against the car driver were dismissed.
    On the other hand there are many many instances where the driver was at fault. I was hit from behind waiting on the red light, and I was wearing reflective orange vest.
    My opinion--idiot is an idiot is an idiot, regardless if he/she drives a car or rides a bike.
    If you guys think that this video is crazy, I invite you to drive in Poland. Drivers there are total idiots, passing cars and pushing others off the road. The rule of thumb, I guess, is the more expensive and powerful car, the bigger idiot behind the wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevend101 View Post
    As I stated in my earlier post, I in no way condone what this rider has done.
    However I stand by my point. In my 30 years both riding sports bikes and driving cars, I have witnessed considerably more accidents caused by distracted car drivers than I ever have with bikes ridden at speed.
    I believe that at least the rider must have been focused on the task in hand to even consider riding in this foolhardy way.
    How many reading this forum have driven an entire journey at some time and then had difficulty remembering everything about it. Each of these forgotten seconds was a potential accident.
    If you have ridden sports bikes at anything approaching these speeds (say on track) then you will understand the level of concentration required.
    Jail time for this is just not the answer, education is.
    There is a big difference between a distracted driver going along the highway at the same speed as everyone else and a focused driver going at triple the speed and carrying 9 times the kinetic energy. In one case, a bad accident occurs if the driver hits something stationary or going the other direction, and probably survives if wearing seatbelt. In the other case, at least 1 dead and probably others killed and injured.

    Drivers like the motorcyclist this thread is about are rare. There's a reason for that: most distracted drivers survive their accidents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will_f View Post
    There is a big difference between a distracted driver going along the highway at the same speed as everyone else and a focused driver going at triple the speed and carrying 9 times the kinetic energy. In one case, a bad accident occurs if the driver hits something stationary or going the other direction, and probably survives if wearing seatbelt. In the other case, at least 1 dead and probably others killed and injured.

    Drivers like the motorcyclist this thread is about are rare. There's a reason for that: most distracted drivers survive their accidents.
    You're right. Most distracted drivers survive. Their victims--not necessarily.

    There was a case in the US where an elderly driver killed two motorcyclists. He was charged with failure to yield to right of way or something similar. Less than $100 fine. What a justice to the families of the victims.
    But a fast motorcycle rider is a menace, huh?
    Idiots like this rider are few and far between, thank god. Distracted drivers yaking on their cell phones, shaving, eating breakfast, and putting on make up are, unfortunately for the rest of us, common.

    Edit: let's not forget texting, reading books, reading maps, changing wardrobe, watching movies, checking on kids in the rear seat of the car, sipping cold beer, smoking marijuana, and so on...

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